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So why gatekeep only economic model? There are a lot of things that China derive majority to sole benefit from like EV, green energy, consumer drones, bottleneck commodities. By your logic, China should also keep those things for itself and tell other nations to fuck off.
I don't think China is necessarily on purpose limiting export of revolution, more that they want to finish the communism in 1 country doctrine which will let them assist (the now more advanced) Chinese allies to also realize communist transformation.

According to Marxism itself, communism should only be instituted after a country has developed to and past the peak stage of capitalism/industrial economy. I think only China and to a lesser extent Russia meet those criteria among China's bloc today.
Ohhh, we should keep the superior ideology for ourselves. But at the same time, exporting components that will ultimately be turned into weapons to kill Chinese people is a-ok.

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Why arbitrarily limit the export of revolution on the grounds of strengthening potential competitors when we are currently helping our enemies stockpile weapons that they will use to kill us?
China exports weapons/weapon components not out of charity but because it's needed to build an even larger industrial base.

Q: why did Britain sell guns, cars, trains to Qing despite knowing those would be used to attack British at a later date?

A: because it helps them make 100x the guns, cars and trains at home.
 

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Telegram shadow bans Middle East Spectator, another channel exposing Israeli losses in the war
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18,000 Palestine war protests across USA in last one year. Now we know why West loves "peaceful protests" so much.
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Telegram bans Samidoun channel, a charitable network working for the welfare of Palestinians prisoners in Israel. Multiple western governments have recently designated it a terrorist network, including Spain whose leaders on media are usually seen supporting Palestine and equating Israel to Nazi (so much lip service)
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There goes Telegram..
 

GZDRefugee

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I was still right. China had effectively stopped supporting communist movements in SEA since the late 1970s. Your source supports my assertion. What are you trying to argue here?
Huh? The sources clearly state that military aid was given to Burman insurgencies and the Khmer Rouge up until the late-1980s and 1991 respectively.

Zhao Ziyang was fortunately purged before he could take power and implement political liberalization. If he had won the power struggle, he would have sold out just like Pizza Hut Gorby.
As horrible as the shitlib problem is in China, I'm confident that the government and the majority of the Chinese people will put them under control. Historically, this did happen, during the Covid lockdowns.
Not seeing it. My grandparents suffered greatly because of the stupid ass white paper protests. If anything the MSS is too soft on traitors who deliberately endanger other Chinese people.
You can bet your ass that China is already winning friends in many places without even needing to pull off coups like the US. Look at what happened in Thailand, Malaysia, and the Maldives. China's had effectively created a pro-China gradient, at least in ASEAN, without doing much dirty tricks, if at all. Most of it is because of US foreign policy f**k ups. The US needs to continuously throw money to pull off all the dirty tricks in the book to fight against this gradient. It is getting more and more costly, and soon they're going to have trouble affording it. The PH appears to be the exception. Or is it? Not too long ago, Duterte was in charge. Most Filipinos voted Marcos Jr. the traitor because he lied to them that he intended to continue the Duterte-era policies.
How long do you expect the CIA/NED to remain incompetent? It is ultimately stupid to fight an opponent using both their hands with one hand held behind your back. I see absolutely nothing wrong with providing intel and decryption support to friendly governments plagued by American destabilization. It helps build rapport and screws with American interests simultaneously. Remember that Iran gave China the intel to dismantle spy rings in 2012.
Remember what I had said about comprehensive national power? You didn't read my replies properly, haven't you? Yeah I thought so. Qing Dynasty-era and Republican-era China didn't have comprehensive national power. They have large economies, but their military power, is severely lacking. Don't compare them with the China of today. You tell me. Is Britain or Japan gonna win a one-one fight with China today?
You're referring to industrial power rather than economic power. Also no, industrial dominance and raw military strength doesn't guarantee victory either. China was poor and agrarian but still kicked the UN from the Yalu back to the 38th parallel with nothing but light infantry.

The China of today is absolutely incomparable to the China of 1949. Back then, China had the will but not the means. While now, China has the means but not the will.
Stop this BS already. Your ideology is a failed relic of the Cold War. If you truly believe in it, you should stop blaming others and start your very own militant communist revolution in your adopted nation right now. Maybe it might work better there.
You say that as if the ideology didn't literally carry China through the Cold War after the USSR withdrew support. Deng's reforms would never have happened without Mao normalizing ties with the US. The PRC wouldn't even have UN recognition without Mao supporting the revolutionary struggles in Africa.
 

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"The Indian Air Force will not be receiving the Tejas Mark-1A jets anytime soon as US major GE Aerospace has failed to deliver engines, further delaying it by two years"

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"Govt backs IAF’s plans to buy 114 Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft but faces 2 problems. What’s the logjam
IAF down to 31 fighter squadrons on paper against sanctioned strength of 42. Number will go down further next year when 2 remaining squadrons of MiG 21 Bison get phased out."

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The two issues facing Centre

“The issue is what route (is) to be taken? Do we go for a repeat of G2G for more Rafale? If yes, under what rule and how many? Or do we have an open tender, which means full-fledged trials have to take place, but this is going to be a long-drawn process,” said a source.

Asked about an IAF proposal a few years ago to have limited trials since most aircraft had already taken part in MMRCA sorties and the IAF knew capabilities and shortfalls, the sources said the aircraft had undergone multiple upgrades and hence this route could not be taken.

Sources said the second issue was about how much indigenous content the MRFA should have and how much would be manufactured in India....."

“....If we give an order to Dassault for more Rafale today, they will only be able to deliver much later since their production capacity is down and they have pending orders. So the aircraft has to be built in India like in the case of the C-295,” the sources said..."

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TK3600

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So why gatekeep only economic model? There are a lot of things that China derive majority to sole benefit from like EV, green energy, consumer drones, bottleneck commodities. By your logic, China should also keep those things for itself and tell other nations to fuck off.

Ohhh, we should keep the superior ideology for ourselves. But at the same time, exporting components that will ultimately be turned into weapons to kill Chinese people is a-ok.

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Why arbitrarily limit the export of revolution on the grounds of strengthening potential competitors when we are currently helping our enemies stockpile weapons that they will use to kill us?
Exporting revolution create regime loyal to you. If every democracy had Americam anti-foriegn agent law you think America will be happy? It could even be a different ideology so long they stay a lapdog. But exporting true Chinese government model dont help that. At best you give a watered down/compromised one like US.

So yeah, go spread revolution, but exporting your best model for sake of it is retarded, like Zhao He giving silks for free level of stupid.
 

GZDRefugee

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Exporting revolution create regime loyal to you. If every democracy had Americam anti-foriegn agent law you think America will be happy? It could even be a different ideology so long they stay a lapdog. But exporting true Chinese government model dont help that. At best you give a watered down/compromised one like US.

So yeah, go spread revolution, but exporting your best model for sake of it is retarded, like Zhao He giving silks for free level of stupid.
I don't think the Chinese model would even work for countries if copied 1:1. They're gonna have to adjust and adapt to what works for their level of development, circumstances, and culture. At best they adopt the framework that allows for experimentation and create "socialism with X characteristics."
 

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Huh? The sources clearly state that military aid was given to Burman insurgencies and the Khmer Rouge up until the late-1980s and 1991 respectively.

Zhao Ziyang was fortunately purged before he could take power and implement political liberalization. If he had won the power struggle, he would have sold out just like Pizza Hut Gorby.

Not seeing it. My grandparents suffered greatly because of the stupid ass white paper protests. If anything the MSS is too soft on traitors who deliberately endanger other Chinese people.
I'm sorry but that was 99% simply an op by China itself to remove the lockdowns and push the majority towards buying it. Not 1 person arrested, not even as a token. And all "protesters" instantly disappeared after the fact. If it was US' op, they would have kept around the useful leaders no? Plus with China's decryption strengths, they would arrested many.

So if your grandpa caught something because the government had to open up, it was simply the government's own fault. They made a risk assessment, but it's called a risk assessment and not risk elimination for a reason.
How long do you expect the CIA/NED to remain incompetent? It is ultimately stupid to fight an opponent using both their hands with one hand held behind your back. I see absolutely nothing wrong with providing intel and decryption support to friendly governments plagued by American destabilization. It helps build rapport and screws with American interests simultaneously. Remember that Iran gave China the intel to dismantle spy rings in 2012.
I don't think CIA is incompetent, not more than other US military/nationalist organizations. They just appear incompetent at times because they get counteracted a lot by US' enemies.

China does help a lot of countries and also make anti-US projects. Think about Iran for example. Why do you think Israel/US never got to any of the air defense/drones/missile scientists? How do you think Iran gets the ability to hack and ground US drones?

You think China should strike Israel urgently, but if you take a step back from the (ironically China provided) war PR coverage and assess the facts, where is the hurry? You've ~50 000 losses for Gaza so far, maybe up to 2000 on Lebanon front, both mostly civilians? You've got a ton of people in the west bank, in Syria, in Egypt, even Saudi Arabia, just sitting around, they would all be quite happy to move into Palestine.

Palestine is not running out of people for years or decades down the line, if ever. And if Israel was on the crux of securing ground control so they can perpetuate Holocaust 2.0, that would be another issue.

It would take more effort for 2010s China to expel Israel back to the west than it would take for 2020s China. Logically, it stands that it's even easier for 2030s China. Meanwhile, the Arabs also have a job, it's necessary for them to increase their hatred of the west, so they'll be loyal soldiers and have the willpower to execute whatever battleplans China provides.
 

Chevalier

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Isn't Medhi Indian?

These guys are goddamn shapeshifters. No wonder racefrauding is a thing. That might explain how they are able to get power in the west.

Kamala Harris is probably more Indian than Black but only talks about her black heritage.
Mehdi being Indian explains so much.
Simple answer, Los Angelas smells like poop because of people pooping on the street due to being very poor and not being able to afford a toilet. Now imagine India being a country version of Los Angelas but a whole lot dirtier and no one with the capability to clean that dump. It’s harsh but seriously, it’s literally proven fact, otherwise more leaders would be flocking to visit India right now rather then simply not going due to not wanting to smell like a sewage dump when they return home
i have heard anecdotes of unfortunate travelers to India who are not Indian, citing that they could smell the city in the plane coming into the airport.
 

doggydogdo

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Israel should continue the genocide, but not finish the job.
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I am pro-Israel making a fool of themselves doing genocide ineffectively. Why are you against that? It is the best possible outcome.
Dude entire families are getting killed. And you support that because it might be good for China? literally how fucking dumb are you? China doesn't need senseless killing to win against the US. You definitely would have supported crimes of imperial japan because "it weakened China" if you were born in japan
 
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