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voyager1

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It is a strategic economic agreement which provides a roadmap. Obviously there wont be $400 Billion to Iran immediately. It provides a roadmap for investment in banking, financial, energy, infrastructure and tech (not sure on that, but I think it is included as well) sectors.

IMO, first the JCPOA deal must be resolved in order for China investments to start flowing in. I think Iran knows this so we will see how Iran tries to resolve the issue, or maybe China will provide funding in the "dark" out of sanctions..


This is a absolutely huge on geopolitics. This is Iran now turning to the East (similarily to Russia).
 

Kaeshmiri

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It seems Myanmar Army has lost the plot
So what's exactly the plan? Kill thousands and wait for the public to get tired?

They should learn from their neighbours . In India they shut off all forms of communication- Tv, Mobile phone networks, Internet. You literally get sent to dark ages. (This is what they do in Kashmir). Once you snap comms , the protestors can no longer coordinate amongst each other and it immediately dies down. Its a joke how people are still using internet there.
 

windsclouds2030

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Forget about the Xinjiang cotton's saga or other "human rights" crappy pretexts, which are just small subsets of the ongoing struggles between the two sides, look at the much bigger picture involving Russia and other actors for years to come!

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Biden's last throw of geopolitical dice

By Alasdair Macleod - 25 March 2021

IN A CONTINUING Cold War, America is already on the back foot. We have yet to see how long it will be before the Biden administration realises its few victories will be unaffordably Pyrrhic, and by merely not responding to American provocation the Chinese/Russian partnership will emerge as the victors.

HALFORD MACKINDER’S CENTURY-OLD VISION of a Eurasian superstate, based between the Volga and the Yangtze Rivers, is becoming reality. Commentators usually fail to understand why; it is not due to military superiority, but down to simple economics. While the US economy suffers a post-lockdown inflationary outcome and an existential crisis for the dollar, China’s economy will boom on the back of increasing domestic consumption [Dual-Circulation Economy], which is an official government objective; and increasing exports, the consequence of America’s stimulation of consumer demand and a soaring budget deficit.

THE CHINESE-RUSSIAN PARTNERSHIP already dominates or controls MACKINDER’S WORLD ISLAND, defined as Eurasia and all Africa. South-east Asian nations notionally in the US’s sphere of influence are firmly tied to the partnership’s economy, and the Overland and Sea Silk Roads similarly bind the EU and the Indian and Western Pacific Oceans’ states respectively.

This article SUMMARISES the background to the geopolitical situation facing the Biden administration before concluding that in the current Cold War against the COMBINED POWER of Russia and China, America will fail in its political objectives, not through lack of military power, but due to economic forces.


CONCLUSIONS

The Biden presidency faces significant challenges in the ongoing Cold War and America is unlikely to retain its hegemonic status. During Trump’s presidency, attempts to curtail China’s trade and technological development did not succeed, and has only emboldened both China and Russia to stand firm and as much as possible to do without America and its dollar.

Their senior advisors are, or should be, acutely aware of the DEBT and INFLATION TRAPS facing the US and also the EU. Following the Fed’s policies of accelerated monetary expansion announced last March [2020], China increased her purchases of COMMODITIES AND RAW MATERIALS, in effect SIGNALLING she prefers them to dollar liquidity. As a policy, it is likely to be extended further, given China’s existing stockpile of dollars and dollar-denominated debt. Her dilemma is not just the fragile state of the US economy, but that of the EU which on any dispassionate analysis is a state failing economically and politically as well. China will not want to be blamed for triggering a series of events which will get everyone reaching out for their forgotten copy of Friedrich Hayek’s The Road to Serfdom.

As events take their course, the risk of a dollar collapse and a matching crisis in the euro, though for different reasons, increases. For MACKINDER’S HEARTLAND THEORY to be proved and for the Russian and Chinese partnership to be in control of it, a mega-crisis facing the profligate money-printers must happen. All history and a priori economic theory confirm it will happen. The SCO’s Plan B will be a continuance of Plan A, hatched out of the Shanghai Five Group, making the WORLD ISLAND a self-contained unit not dependent on the peripherals — principally, the five eyes. For money, they must give up western ways with unbacked state currencies. Between them they have enough state-owned declared and undeclared gold to back the yuan, and the rouble. Give these two currencies free convertibility into gold, and they will be accepted everywhere, so their old Cold War enemies can trade their way back to prosperity. The US has, or says it has, enough gold to put a failing dollar back on a gold standard, but for it to be credible it must radically cut spending, its geopolitical ambitions, and return its budget into balance.

WITH LUCK, THAT IS HOW THE NEW COLD WAR ENDS.


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solarz

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It seems Myanmar Army has lost the plot
So what's exactly the plan? Kill thousands and wait for the public to get tired?

They should learn from their neighbours . In India they shut off all forms of communication- Tv, Mobile phone networks, Internet. You literally get sent to dark ages. (This is what they do in Kashmir). Once you snap comms , the protestors can no longer coordinate amongst each other and it immediately dies down. Its a joke how people are still using internet there.

How reliable are these reports? Not that I give a crap about the junta, but the "protestor" tactics are extremely sophisticated and reminiscent of HK. They are certainly funded and trained by the West, so Western media is certainly spreading anti-junta propaganda right now.
 

KampfAlwin

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It seems Myanmar Army has lost the plot
So what's exactly the plan? Kill thousands and wait for the public to get tired?

They should learn from their neighbours . In India they shut off all forms of communication- Tv, Mobile phone networks, Internet. You literally get sent to dark ages. (This is what they do in Kashmir). Once you snap comms , the protestors can no longer coordinate amongst each other and it immediately dies down. Its a joke how people are still using internet there.
While this is happening, the Rohingyas(and Kashmiri) are yet again forgotten by everyone... I thought the coup would bring more attention to their plight, instead it became a shit flinging contest between who gets the blame for the coup...
 

Kaeshmiri

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How reliable are these reports? Not that I give a crap about the junta, but the "protestor" tactics are extremely sophisticated and reminiscent of HK. They are certainly funded and trained by the West, so Western media is certainly spreading anti-junta propaganda right now.
Reports seem to be true to large extent. Various outlets (even local ones) are reporting high casualties.
And Yes they're following the HK model when it comes to protest tactics but the difference is that they're not facing a benevolent police like in HK. US is simply provoking them and getting them killed.
That's why its essential to snap all comms or else this will see no end.
 

voyager1

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It seems Myanmar Army has lost the plot
So what's exactly the plan? Kill thousands and wait for the public to get tired?

They should learn from their neighbours . In India they shut off all forms of communication- Tv, Mobile phone networks, Internet. You literally get sent to dark ages. (This is what they do in Kashmir). Once you snap comms , the protestors can no longer coordinate amongst each other and it immediately dies down. Its a joke how people are still using internet there.
Man I said it before and I will say it again. The Junta is incompetent beyong belief. Imagine having all these "grassroots" (CIA operation basically) protests and not blocking all communications...

And imagine that the Junta then decides to actually kill them. They are so stupid it is not even funny. There are so many ways to deal with these kinds of things and the moronic Junta chooses mass killings.

They are so stupid that they dont even deserve to be a proper military not even counting being a government. They should do the Japanese version of seppuku and remove their incompetent hostile government and let democracy resume again
 

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It seems Myanmar Army has lost the plot
So what's exactly the plan? Kill thousands and wait for the public to get tired?

They should learn from their neighbours . In India they shut off all forms of communication- Tv, Mobile phone networks, Internet. You literally get sent to dark ages. (This is what they do in Kashmir). Once you snap comms , the protestors can no longer coordinate amongst each other and it immediately dies down. Its a joke how people are still using internet there.

Banana state goes banana. We Chinese did react the same way as the Burma junta during great swaths of the 20th century.
 

Khalij e Fars

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Iran and China officially sign historic 25-year Strategic Partnership Roadmap


Both parties know very well the undue political nature of unilateral U.S. economic sanctions and are working to create a framework of investment and trade built on mutual respect and dignity, and to shield this from the scope of U.S. interference. The future of the international rules-based world order (as opposed to U.S.-imposed-rules-based world order) depends on this.

Congratulations to all my Chinese and Iranian friends. :)

Iran and China sign 25-year cooperation agreement​


Iran and China have signed a long-gestating 25-year cooperation accord as both countries remain under Unites States sanctions.

The agreement was signed in Tehran on Saturday by Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi.

Wang, who touched down in Tehran on Friday for a two-day visit as part of his Middle East trip, also met with President Hassan Rouhani, and Ali Larijani, a representative of the Supreme Leader Ali Hosseini Khamenei who is said to have been the point person on the 25-year accord.

The agreement is said to have been in the works since Chinese President Xi Jinping visited Iran in 2016, also agreeing to increase bilateral trade more than 10-fold to $600bn in the next decade.

No details of the agreement have yet to be officially published, but it is expected to be a sweeping “strategic accord” that includes significant Chinese investments in Iran’s key sectors such as energy and infrastructure, in addition to military cooperation.

After unilaterally abandoning Iran’s 2015 nuclear deal with world powers – that also included China – former US President Donald Trump imposed harsh sanctions on Iran that have blacklisted its entire financial system.

While saying he wants to restore the deal, President Joe Biden has so far
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, saying Iran must first act to fulfil commitments it scaled back in response to US sanctions.

China and Russia have called on the US to restore the deal by lifting sanctions, while traders and analysts say Iran’s oil exports to China have significantly increased in March despite US warnings.

Rouhani thanked Wang on Saturday for China’s stance on the nuclear deal and standing up to “American unilateralism”.

As China and Iran are approaching 50 years of official diplomatic ties, an exhibition of diplomatic documents and achievements between the two countries was opened at the foreign ministry building in Tehran on Saturday.

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