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If you are referring to Covid Vaccine from Pfizer than it was developed in cooperation with Turkish-German with firm run by Greek.
and there is no practical difference between the three vaccines but Sputnik was earliest and i dont think Russia has exported the updated version. Arabs have good idea who produce bad mechanical engineering products post covid either population is unhealthy or covid vaccine has bad after effects.
I've recently watched an American podcast where they were interviewing an ex-US marine. That veteran was calling Russia a paper tiger, but said that China is the real deal. He is afraid that if the US and China were to go to war, the US would be in real trouble. So his solution for victory is to fight dirty. He was referring to the US's experience in Afghanistan where he complained that the Talibans were fighting dirty, but the US soldiers can't because their superiors ordered them to behave. He said that because US soldiers had their hands tied, the enemy has an advantage and doesn't fear them enough. He prefers US soldiers to show such brutality, that the enemy won't mess with them next time. He believes that if the US fights dirty and brutal enough with China, they can beat them down to submission.
Well Mr. ex-US Marine, when you invade another country, the enemy has every right to eject you out of their lands using whatever methods possible. When they fight dirty, they are hurting enemy combatants. But when you're fighting dirty you're also brutalizing their civilians. Let's not forget that before you soldiers start walking onto their lands, your airforce and navy have already leveled buildings and murdered families in their homes. Which you guys undercount anyway and give them soft labels like "collateral damage". How can you blame the enemy for fighting dirty after your forces have their families and friends murdered.
Let me also remind you Mr ex-US Marine, that as the invader, brutality and fighting dirty doesn't pay. Look at what you did in Vietnam. Yet, your forces broke down first, not the enemy. Look at what the Nazis did in Poland and the Soviet Union. Yet they were defeated. Look at what the Japanese had done to China. The Japanese didn't win too. If you dare to attack China and brutalize the Chinese, we will never back down. We will fight you even harder. Yes, we might lose a lot of people, but we will never allow you to beat us to submission. The brutal Axis militaries have all been thrown into the dustbins of history, and you will join them too if wanna become like them.
Well Mr. ex-US Marine, when you invade another country, the enemy has every right to eject you out of their lands using whatever methods possible. When they fight dirty, they are hurting enemy combatants. But when you're fighting dirty you're also brutalizing their civilians. Let's not forget that before you soldiers start walking onto their lands, your airforce and navy have already leveled buildings and murdered families in their homes. Which you guys undercount anyway and give them soft labels like "collateral damage". How can you blame the enemy for fighting dirty after your forces have their families and friends murdered.
Let me also remind you Mr ex-US Marine, that as the invader, brutality and fighting dirty doesn't pay. Look at what you did in Vietnam. Yet, your forces broke down first, not the enemy. Look at what the Nazis did in Poland and the Soviet Union. Yet they were defeated. Look at what the Japanese had done to China. The Japanese didn't win too. If you dare to attack China and brutalize the Chinese, we will never back down. We will fight you even harder. Yes, we might lose a lot of people, but we will never allow you to beat us to submission. The brutal Axis militaries have all been thrown into the dustbins of history, and you will join them too if wanna become like them.
It’s not a few firms, it’s hundreds and thousands of firms that lack comparables across all industry sectors - be it software, semiconductors, machinery, chemicals, and more. And they clearly do justify large productivity gains since they simply lack comparable elsewhere. It’s like saying all the UK had in the 1800s were a handful of machinery and textile companies and that couldn’t possibly explain why the UK was much more productive than the rest of the world (it did). Being able to produce at scale and cheaply what others cannot is productivity.
This is circular. Why is the USD hegemonic? Could it be that USD economies produce items people want and cannot get with any other currency?
I’m willing to easily bet the U.S. exists in 2026 lol.
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solarz
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Hope he got deported and put on the visa blacklist.
China is behind the U.S. economically. China simply lacks the technological and financial complexity existent in U.S. firms.
The U.S. economy is on a productivity boom, far from any “recession”.
China thinks hotlines are the U.S. trying to push everything right to China’s redline before de-escalating and thus wants to keep the U.S. guessing in a belief it would self-moderate the U.S.
I mean, the years of chaos at Huawei would run counter to that, but yes, broadly agreed, the U.S. & China are for the most part, large economies isolated from the rest of the world.
manqiangrexue
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That could be before. It's becoming less and less true with China's ascent in technology, which will first mean competition in areas where the US dominated, and then it will mean that the US needs sanctions and bans and other under-the-table techniques to even get its tech goods sold as they become less and less competitive quality and price-wise compared to the China. That's why the US fears Chinese tech and tried so desperately and counter-productively to stymie it.
Not that I think the US empire will crumble in less than 2 years but the death of an empire means that it loses control of its former vassals and becomes a shell of itself in terms of power. It does not have to cease to exist. The nation will exist, unless it chooses to go out in an all-or-nothing WWIII attempt to stay in control, but the empire can be gone. A few decades, not 2026.
Only in nominal. It is much farther ahead in terms of ppp, which is a much more reliable indicator for the domestic economy.
Technologically no, and that is tilting more and more in China's favor. Financially; that is a tool for the advancement of firms but also for making the rich richer and keeping the poor poor with the "takes money to make money" scheme. It is double-edged in that it puts power and perspective in the hands of the greedy and undeserving. China is very careful employing this to ensure that it never loses scope of whom should control whom like in the US. And it's fine because Chinese firms are expanding much faster than American onese anyway.
Your boom numbers are China's bust numbers. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Oh the years of chaos at Huawei are the pressure needed to forge coal into diamonds. Without them, Huawei could go down as a Chinese Apple, buying parts everwhere and assembling phones for profit. Those golden years made sure that Huawei becomes a Chinese Samsung, pioneering in technology pervasive in every aspect of tech to create a Chinese network that is both indigenous and at the top of the world. Looking back with success in your hands, the years of struggle are the most beautiful years.
China has no semiconductor-exclusive ish firm that makes anywhere clear to Intel, or is able to match ultimately, the combined revenues of U.S. semiconductor companies - especially once you add in Qualcomm, Broadcom, Nvidia, AMD, and the rest.
Huawei competes in tons of market segments so it’s hard to compare Huawei against one specific firm; but the U.S. ICT sector - adding in Meta, Apple, AWS, Alphabet/Google, Microsoft, Cisco, IBM, Dell, EMC, Supermicro, ServiceNow, etc is once again larger than any like comparison of Chinese firms - Huawei, ZTE, Baidu, Alicloud, Tencent, and a bunch of startups.
both are pretty clear evidence of the productivity advantages US firms have
If you add the revenues of all U.S. aerospace firms - Boeing, Lockheed, Northrop, and General Dynamics - and compare it against AVIC and COMAC; the U.S. has substantially more revenues. Since there are substantial military revenues with all of them, the commercial comparison is better since that is where most of the market competition comes from, and there, Boeing Commercial Aircraft is leagues beyond COMAC
Naming companies was being illustrative on the depth and complexity of firms that no one else can match (even your attempt at corrections only went into Intel and Boeing, and ignored the rest).
manqiangrexue
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Your firms are garbage. They just make money and they are not self-sufficient. China's embarked on a quest to do what nobody else has done, which is to make the world's first fully indigenized, fully self-sufficient cutting edge semiconductor manufacturing chain. American firms are just hogs in a pen trying to eat as much mash (money) as they can shove down their gullets.
It's hard to compare because Huawei does it all, like I said above. Thanks to the US for showing it the path so that it is now incomparable to any of those firms you mentioned.
The only thing that's clear is that Chinese tech develops faster than American tech.
Add the money of the Chinese government. COMAC is just getting started, only debuted its first mid-weight airliner. Incumbent tech is always run over by faster innovation.
Except Chinese firms can and can oftentines exceed them in complexity and tech. You were basically providing a list, which China has half-finished crossing out and we're just getting warmed up. The tech war may have been a final push to maintain dominance for the US, but for China, it was just the start of a new path, the right path.
Oh cmon sleepy, both you and me know "complexity" metrics are a total bunk. Having a more "complex" economy according to some cherry picked ranking does not put you ahead economically overall.
By that logic, US is behind Switzerland economically.
That is just a conspiracy theory as far as I can see. If China wanted to "self moderate" the US, why do incidents keep springing up that are provocative to the extreme against US? China's direct allies are killing people including NATO mercs in Europe, US' core interest right now, and what has US done that's equivalent in Asia?
I guess the HK riots which killed what, 1 elderly man and wounded 1 journalist. Or US mercs in Taiwan which idk what they are even doing, a few dozen illegal immigrants drinking and sunbathing in China to no impact to anyone. Far cry from the sheer pressure China exacts on NATO across both economic and military sectors.
Years of chaos in Huawei still put them at far better revenue than Intel.