Marines

MIGleader

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
i dont think most gun fight occur from underwater...and a gun specially designed to fire underwater would definilty have to sacrifice performnace one way or another. there are not strategic assests underwater to fight over with infantry, so the guns a dud. a decent waterproof gun will do fine. if u want an undwater gun, might as well use a crossbow...
 
Wingman

Wingman

Junior Member
It could be useful, if it had a scope that is long and can protrude out of the water (so you can see land from below water using the scope) or if it's periscope-ish. Then you can fire at land targets FROM underwater and nobody would see it coming because of the reflection of water. Imagine patrolling one day and suddenly bullets start flying out of the water at you? :confused: :eek:
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
Wingman said:
It could be useful, if it had a scope that is long and can protrude out of the water (so you can see land from below water using the scope) or if it's periscope-ish. Then you can fire at land targets FROM underwater and nobody would see it coming because of the reflection of water. Imagine patrolling one day and suddenly bullets start flying out of the water at you? :confused: :eek:
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but the angles simply dont wrk out...how could u hit someone on land if u fire from a concealed position underwater? you qould have to raise the gun out of the water and postion it first. besides, they would shoot back. and bullets are lethat underwater.
 
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Bohemond

Just Hatched
Registered Member
Actually, most bullets fragment when hitting the water if they are high velocity such as military units would use...pistol rounds dont fragment but they dont travel far. The underwater weapons mentioned by earlier posters work by actually forcing air ahead of them so that they actually do not go through the water.
 
RavenWing278

RavenWing278

Junior Member
MIGleader said:
but the angles simply dont wrk out...how could u hit someone on land if u fire from a concealed position underwater? you qould have to raise the gun out of the water and postion it first. besides, they would shoot back. and bullets are lethat underwater.
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tests have shown that rifle rounds break up after entering the water at an angle of 30 degrees or lower. at this angle , you only have to be below 1.5ft to escape the round.
on a program called myth busters in the US, they tested guns ranging from m1 garands, 12 gouge shot guns to the m95 sniper rifle
you only have to be below 2.5ft of water to be safe from the latter. i think you can check it at the myth busters website..forgot the URL
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
RavenWing278 said:
tests have shown that rifle rounds break up after entering the water at an angle of 30 degrees or lower. at this angle , you only have to be below 1.5ft to escape the round.
on a program called myth busters in the US, they tested guns ranging from m1 garands, 12 gouge shot guns to the m95 sniper rifle
you only have to be below 2.5ft of water to be safe from the latter. i think you can check it at the myth busters website..forgot the URL
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damn...ive been watching to much tv. on "the italian job", some gy=uy had an ak and fired under water...never trust hollywood. but still, an underwater gun has got to be a bad idea. especially when it comes to how it might perform on land.
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
rommel said:
NOW, PLEASE GET BACK TO THE CHINESE MARINES !!!!!
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as u wish.

so, lets start compiling a list of equipment used by the chinese marines
the type 63a amphibious tank
type 95 rifle
Z-8 Naval Helicopter
Type 072-III Large Landing Ship
Type 072-II (Yuting Class) Large Landing Ship
Type 724 Air Cushion Landing Craft
Type 722-II Air Cushion Landing Craft
Type 98 (PF-98) 120mm anti-tank rocket
and a large variety of the assault ships and guns we dont know
maybe the marines will star using the QJY-88, 5.8 mm Heavy Machine Gun in the future as well.

anything to add?
 
PiSigma

PiSigma

"the engineer"
wood boat?? i always thought that the marines got inflatible boats with motors. and i'm hoping marines get their own air wing, having their own air projection is always better than asking the navy or air force boys to do their work for them.
 
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