Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

broadsword

Brigadier
MH370: The one theory of the ‘airline pilot fraternity’ that makes sense

  • 1 month ago May 09, 2015 3:02PM
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A Malaysian Airlines plane similar to MH370. Source: Supplied
ON March 8 2014, around 1am, Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 disappeared over the South China Sea.
It was subsequently found to have tracked westward over Penang, around Aceh and six hours later deep into the southern Indian Ocean.
This is where the continuing search is concentrated.
However, after the seventh satellite ping, MH370 could have flown for another 50 minutes (700kms), so the position line intersecting the arc from the satellite may be quite broad.
As far as the Diego Garcia conspiracy theorists and the aircraft seen over the Maldives at 8am, I have flown many times into the Maldives and also into Gan, part of the South Island chain of Diego Garcia.
There is quite a lot of airline and military aircraft traffic in that region, so sighting an aircraft at 8am does not have any significance.
So what happened?
I believe someone hijacked the aircraft, turned all communication equipment off over the South China Sea, then flew westward towards Penang and reprogrammed the Flight Management System to the southern Indian Ocean, otherwise the aircraft would have flown itself to Beijing. Who reprogrammed the FMS?
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A Malaysia Airlines employee writes a message expressing prayers and well-wishes for passengers onboard missing Malaysia Airlines. Picture: AFP Photo Source: Supplied
Read that 100 times then try to find a B777 captain who will tell you differently because only a qualified jet pilot could have inserted manually defined waypoints of latitude and longitude into the Flight Management System, as there are no airways leading to the Southern Indian Ocean.
MH370, after seven hours flying, did not crash because if it ran out of fuel at 35,000 feet, one engine would quit first, since they are fed from separate fuel tanks, and the autopilot would have disconnected as it struggled to maintain control.
The aircraft would then have spiralled into a near vertical dive and would have hit the water at near supersonic speed shattering into thousands of pieces.
I have consulted with aircraft wet drill ditching procedures instructor Captain John Corcoran.
Corcoran Aviation Safety Services trains pilots and cabin crew in evacuation procedures, life raft drill and basic sea survival methods following a ditch emergency.
In this field, he is one of Australia’s most eminent specialists. A crash by a very large aircraft like the Boeing 777 would result in a huge amount of debris that would float for months and months.
Even the life jackets still in their pouches normally stowed under the seats and seat cushions would float.
So why, with the strong westerly winds the roaring forties north of Antarctica, has not even one item of debris washed up on the shores of Tasmania, the South Island of New Zealand or Chile.
MH370 did not crash.
It was ditched under control, according to Boeing 777 flight manual procedures, that is gear up, into wind as slow as possible. Why do airline pilots and cabin crew practice ditching, life jacket donning and egress into life rafts etc if this was not feasible?
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MH370: Captain Zaharia Source: Supplied
Only a pilot could have flown the aircraft via the reprogrammed FMS and autopilot for seven hours.
There were only two pilots on board.
Only one had the necessary experience and ability to make this happen. The jet airline pilot fraternity is almost unanimous as to who was responsible.
At this stage of the official investigation, it would be more prudent to wait to see if MH370 is found.
I wrote in an article several months ago that I hoped the Chinese government would take over the search for MH370 as it was believed that in May the Malaysian and Australian governments would suspend the search.
Now the search continues with Chinese government help.
Perhaps because of behind the scenes Chinese government pressure as most passengers were Chinese. The search area is approximately 6500m deep in places with cliffs and difficult undersea terrain.
The pressure underwater increases by 1 atmosphere every 10m. This means at 6500m, the pressure is nearly 10,000 lbs per square inch.
Recovering the FDR may be able to confirm that the aircraft was, as suspected, ditched under control. The CVR is a closed loop of two hours duration and if any information is gleaned it may help.
One expert I consulted was of the opinion that the FDR and CVR in sealed steel boxes have a design limit crush depth of 4500m.
Does this mean that their structural integrity may be compromised or water damage may have occurred?
If the MH370 hijacker intentionally controls the aircraft for seven hours, as stated by the head of the world’s largest Boeing 777 airline operator on German TV, into the remote Southern Indian Ocean then he must have been aware that he would die as there are no airfields within thousands of kilometres.
This therefore suggests a preplanned suicide.
I can understand the ATSB being naturally reluctant to comment on all this until perhaps MH370 is found to avoid embarrassing Malaysian airlines.
I can understand why the FBI, which according to my Canberra source, supplied information from MH370 captain’s computer to the ATSB, cannot comment as the FBI is a domestic entity for USA.
I would prefer if the NTSB stepped in as the Boeing 777 is made in USA and assist with the whole investigation. The Boeing 777 is possibly the safest aircraft flying today with practically failsafe technology.
All competent experienced jet pilots believe MH370 did not crash and therefore it was not a mysterious accident.
I believe MH370 rests intact in the darkest place in the world, 6500m down in a cold, remote, lonely place.

Byron Bailey is a professional pilot with 26,000 hours flying time, nearly all jet command, with many thousands of hours Boeing 777 command. A former captain with Emirates, he holds Airline Transport Pilot Licenses for Australia, USA, Europe, United Arab Emirates and New Zealand and is included in the prestigious FAA Airmen Certification Database.
 

Brumby

Major
Time for another brief update to the continuing search... that it will continue further into the future.

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Eventually it is a matter of dollars and "sense". The cost of the search to date as I understand it has reached $200 million shared equally between Malaysia and Australia. It has probably reached a stage where those who wish to continue and expand the search will have to foot the bill.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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I have always hoped they would find it...but as time goes on, the hope ffades.

It has become the Amelia Earhart of our day.
Another sad chapter, my hope is that the thugs who killed MH-17 are exposed, now that is beyond sensless??
Eventually it is a matter of dollars and "sense". The cost of the search to date as I understand it has reached $200 million shared equally between Malaysia and Australia. It has probably reached a stage where those who wish to continue and expand the search will have to foot the bill.

Its not a question of being too poor master delft, it is a question of common decency and common sense. Those poor SOBs, (souls on board) for those who are not pilots, have gone to meet their maker, and he is kind and gracious to those who give Him the honor He asks for?? but its not going to make it any easier if they do find that aircraft???

Far to many resources have been burned and false hope raised already, I thought "Dutchmen" were supposed to be "tight", maybe not with other peoples money??
 
Eventually it is a matter of dollars and "sense". The cost of the search to date as I understand it has reached $200 million shared equally between Malaysia and Australia. It has probably reached a stage where those who wish to continue and expand the search will have to foot the bill.

I've read reports too about Malaysia and Australia splitting the cost, but as with other complicated endeavors it's not so simple. I've done some extensive Googling for the past year and have not been able to find a single comprehensive report on who is doing what and/or paying how much. Here are two articles, one a year old and the other a few days old, providing some info on costs at that point in time besides from the main countries involved. China have not disclosed its spending on the search at any point which is definitely a transparency problem here and doing everyone a disfavor.

This Is the Country That’s Spent the Most Searching for MH370
June 11, 2014
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Without New Leads, Search Teams for Flight MH 370 Plane No Longer Keen on Expanding Search Area
June 05, 2015

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The ongoing search has already cost the Australian government $100 million while Malaysia has reportedly spent $60 million. China has not yet disclosed how much it had already spent for participating in the search because most of the 239 passengers onboard the ill-fated Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 were Chinese.
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Brumby

Major
I've read reports too about Malaysia and Australia splitting the cost, but as with other complicated endeavors it's not so simple. I've done some extensive Googling for the past year and have not been able to find a single comprehensive report on who is doing what and/or paying how much. Here are two articles, one a year old and the other a few days old, providing some info on costs at that point in time besides from the main countries involved. China have not disclosed its spending on the search at any point which is definitely a transparency problem here and doing everyone a disfavor.

This Is the Country That’s Spent the Most Searching for MH370
June 11, 2014
mh370-flight-expenditure.png

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Without New Leads, Search Teams for Flight MH 370 Plane No Longer Keen on Expanding Search Area
June 05, 2015

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I think we should be mindful of two types of cost that are at play here. Most of the cost mentioned in your post probably relates to the use of military assets in the initial phase of the search when the plane went missing. Phase 2 of the cost involves hiring the professional services of a firm (I think Fugro) in conducting the search. Given that the planned search area is close to completion there are talks of expanding the search area and hence ongoing cost. It is phase 2 of the cost that are being shared equally between Australia and Malaysia.

Phase 1 costs are simply willing participants who bear their own cost as part of a global search initiative as good corporate citizens. Phase 2 costs are above and beyond initiative from interested parties in an ongoing effort. It is understandable for Malaysia as they lost the plane. It is debatable in my view why Australia should continue to share the burden in an even more expanded effort given that China which has the most citizens on board the plane is not sharing in any of the phase 2 costs but yet wants a seat on the table.
 
I think we should be mindful of two types of cost that are at play here. Most of the cost mentioned in your post probably relates to the use of military assets in the initial phase of the search when the plane went missing. Phase 2 of the cost involves hiring the professional services of a firm (I think Fugro) in conducting the search. Given that the planned search area is close to completion there are talks of expanding the search area and hence ongoing cost. It is phase 2 of the cost that are being shared equally between Australia and Malaysia.

Phase 1 costs are simply willing participants who bear their own cost as part of a global search initiative as good corporate citizens. Phase 2 costs are above and beyond initiative from interested parties in an ongoing effort. It is understandable for Malaysia as they lost the plane. It is debatable in my view why Australia should continue to share the burden in an even more expanded effort given that China which has the most citizens on board the plane is not sharing in any of the phase 2 costs but yet wants a seat on the table.

Note: I think you meant good *global* citizens rather than corporate citizens, LOL.

I mostly agree with what you are saying except that I don't think there is enough information to pass judgement on China's participation or lack thereof, other than the lack of information regarding that.

What is unclear are:
- Has China contributed to the Phase 2 costs at all?
- Have they contributed to the actual Phase 2 searching?
- Is it common practice that whoever lost the most people, in this case China, has a seat at the table regardless of their contribution to SAR?
- Does China have a seat at the table? Reports only mention Australia and Malaysia negotiating, China could just be chiming in without being at the table.
- Is it common practice that wherever a plane is lost the local or nearest nation, in this case Australia, takes on the SAR?
- Has China offered to take on the Phase 2 or future financial burden?
- If they did, were they turned down?
 

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I have always hoped they would find it...but as time goes on, the hope ffades.

It has become the Amelia Earhart of our day.
Note: I think you meant good *global* citizens rather than corporate citizens, LOL.

I mostly agree with what you are saying except that I don't think there is enough information to pass judgement on China's participation or lack thereof, other than the lack of information regarding that.

What is unclear are:
- Has China contributed to the Phase 2 costs at all?
- Have they contributed to the actual Phase 2 searching?
- Is it common practice that whoever lost the most people, in this case China, has a seat at the table regardless of their contribution to SAR?
- Does China have a seat at the table? Reports only mention Australia and Malaysia negotiating, China could just be chiming in without being at the table.
- Is it common practice that wherever a plane is lost the local or nearest nation, in this case Australia, takes on the SAR?
- Has China offered to take on the Phase 2 or future financial burden?
- If they did, were they turned down?
Note: I think you meant good *global* citizens rather than corporate citizens, LOL.

I mostly agree with what you are saying except that I don't think there is enough information to pass judgement on China's participation or lack thereof, other than the lack of information regarding that.

What is unclear are:
- Has China contributed to the Phase 2 costs at all?
- Have they contributed to the actual Phase 2 searching?
- Is it common practice that whoever lost the most people, in this case China, has a seat at the table regardless of their contribution to SAR?
- Does China have a seat at the table? Reports only mention Australia and Malaysia negotiating, China could just be chiming in without being at the table.
- Is it common practice that wherever a plane is lost the local or nearest nation, in this case Australia, takes on the SAR?
- Has China offered to take on the Phase 2 or future financial burden?
- If they did, were they turned down?

Australia, US, Malaysia, and Vietnam have more than fulfilled their obligations, moral and otherwise, if others wish to continue to search they may be our guest?? While there was initially a chance of survivors, and shortly after that a chance to find the black boxes??? to continue to search is a kindness, once that has passed, then it borders on gracious extravagance, which we can ill afford??

One of the reasons that most ground-pounders don't seem to realize just how much a fighter pilot in a single seat aircraft is putting out there everyday, add single engine to that equation? it is a very lonely, more often than not thankless job. You do it because you love to fly, and you love your country, and want to protect "YOUR" family, and mine...

and all you have to do is screw up just this much???picture my thumb and forefinger measuring 1/32nd of an inch, and YOU my friend are DEAD, and ain't nobody coming to save your butt, its not even certain that folks will care for your wife and kids? and you won't be cut "any slack", cause you are a snot nosed jet jockey???

It is extremely unlikely that China has volunteered any one, any cash to continue, because of course people would say, as long as you have the coin, we will be out here??? because that is what they do, so no, every one is coming to the end of their rope here?? Logic and common sense dictated the end of this search months ago.
 
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