Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

kwaigonegin · Aug 11, 2015

Most probably.. Still it's unheard of for suicide victims to have such meticulous plan w/o making some sort of statement. He could've easily crashed into the mountain or downtown building etc to really make a statement. Heck turn it around and crash into the control tower... Instead he went totally dark, he left no notes nor any sort of indication of his plans.

Assuming it was the pilot, I can only assiume he wanted to win the hardest game of hide and seek. Don't know about the rest of you but if I were to go through all that trouble to kill myself I want people to know damnit! I want to take credit for all that hard work!
I want to go down in history as hide and seek champ

Miragedriver · Aug 12, 2015

Flight MH370 Update: Flaperon Shows Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane Intact On Indian Ocean Floor, Expert Says

Recent evidence suggests Malaysia Airline Flight MH370 could be sitting intact on the Indian Ocean's floor, according to a satellite communications expert who was part of the early stages of the investigation after the plane went missing. The flaperon found July on Reunion Island indicated that the flight likely ran out of fuel and floated for a while before sinking, Zaaim Redha Abdul Rahman told

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, a Malaysian national news agency.

Zaaim Redha took part in the initial search to find the plane and helped analyze flight data to determine that it had landed in the Indian Ocean. Recent debris found from the plane has provided new clues of what happened to the missing airliner, he said.

"It (the flaperon) was only slightly damaged and was just encrusted with barnacles. Its appearance indicates that it was not violently torn off from the aircraft's main body...it does seem that it got detached pretty nicely at its edges," Zaaim Redha said.

In contrast to part of the plane's wing recently found on Reunion Island, he pointed out that no debris from Germanwings Flight 9525, which was flown into the French Alps in March, was found exceeding one foot. “If MH370 had crashed with a really hard impact, we would have seen small pieces of debris floating on the sea immediately after that,” he said.

The Malaysia airliner went missing March 8, 2014. Despite a multi-national search for the whereabouts of the plane, no traces turned up until late last month, when debris was found washed ashore on Reunion Island, a French territory. While there were reports of other debris, only part of a wing has

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as originating from the plane.

Zaaim Redha said the flaperon indicated it likely sat for some time at the bottom of the ocean with the plane before detaching and being pulled to shore by currents. The remnants were found far from the area investigators were searching, indicating either that the plane was far from the route investigators were searching or it had been pulled a long way by currents.

“Going by how the earth rotates, it's highly possible that the piece of debris could have floated (over a long distance) because the ocean current can be really powerful," he said.

Other sightings of debris have been reported, including in the

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, which joined the search for the missing Malaysia airliner last weekend, but so far none of the findings have been authenticated.

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newguy02 · Aug 12, 2015

Miragedriver said:
Flight MH370 Update: Flaperon Shows Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane Intact On Indian Ocean Floor, Expert Says

Recent evidence suggests Malaysia Airline Flight MH370 could be sitting intact on the Indian Ocean's floor, according to a satellite communications expert who was part of the early stages of the investigation after the plane went missing. The flaperon found July on Reunion Island indicated that the flight likely ran out of fuel and floated for a while before sinking, Zaaim Redha Abdul Rahman told
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, a Malaysian national news agency.

Zaaim Redha took part in the initial search to find the plane and helped analyze flight data to determine that it had landed in the Indian Ocean. Recent debris found from the plane has provided new clues of what happened to the missing airliner, he said.

"It (the flaperon) was only slightly damaged and was just encrusted with barnacles. Its appearance indicates that it was not violently torn off from the aircraft's main body...it does seem that it got detached pretty nicely at its edges," Zaaim Redha said.

In contrast to part of the plane's wing recently found on Reunion Island, he pointed out that no debris from Germanwings Flight 9525, which was flown into the French Alps in March, was found exceeding one foot. “If MH370 had crashed with a really hard impact, we would have seen small pieces of debris floating on the sea immediately after that,” he said.

The Malaysia airliner went missing March 8, 2014. Despite a multi-national search for the whereabouts of the plane, no traces turned up until late last month, when debris was found washed ashore on Reunion Island, a French territory. While there were reports of other debris, only part of a wing has
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as originating from the plane.

Zaaim Redha said the flaperon indicated it likely sat for some time at the bottom of the ocean with the plane before detaching and being pulled to shore by currents. The remnants were found far from the area investigators were searching, indicating either that the plane was far from the route investigators were searching or it had been pulled a long way by currents.

“Going by how the earth rotates, it's highly possible that the piece of debris could have floated (over a long distance) because the ocean current can be really powerful," he said.

Other sightings of debris have been reported, including in the
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, which joined the search for the missing Malaysia airliner last weekend, but so far none of the findings have been authenticated.

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Well this would explain why no parts were found for so long but this would mean that the pilot or whoever did this had to still be alive and conscious in order to have landed a plane on water without damaging it too much in which if this was the case then it had to be someone with a lot of experience.

kwaigonegin · Aug 12, 2015

newguy02 said:
Well this would explain why no parts were found for so long but this would mean that the pilot or whoever did this had to still be alive and conscious in order to have landed a plane on water without damaging it too much in which if this was the case then it had to be someone with a lot of experience.

Water landing is certainly possible as evidenced by US Airways Flight 1549. Of course ocean landing is very different than river however if the seas were relatively calm during the landing it is certainly possible to ditch relatively intact with an experienced pilot which I believe the capt of MH370 was.

In many ways it's actually easier because he doesn't have to do any course changes, last minute maneuvers to avoid populated areas, structures, cables etc. All he had to do was slowly guide the plane down.
Again assuming if that was what really happened.

newguy02 · Aug 12, 2015

kwaigonegin said:
Water landing is certainly possible as evidenced by US Airways Flight 1549. Of course ocean landing is very different than river however if the seas were relatively calm during the landing it is certainly possible to ditch relatively intact with an experienced pilot which I believe the capt of MH370 was.

In many ways it's actually easier because he doesn't have to do any course changes, last minute maneuvers to avoid populated areas, structures, cables etc. All he had to do was slowly guide the plane down.
Again assuming if that was what really happened.

The only really problem with this theory IMO is that if it was the pilot then why didn't he just crash the plane instead of water landing it if he wanted to commit suicide, granted we still don't know if it was the pilot wanting to commit suicide or something else but something just seems a bit off.

kwaigonegin · Aug 12, 2015

newguy02 said:
The only really problem with this theory IMO is that if it was the pilot then why didn't he just crash the plane instead of water landing it if he wanted to commit suicide, granted we still don't know if it was the pilot wanting to commit suicide or something else but something just seems a bit off.

read my earlier postings.. I've said those very things as well. While we may eventually know the whats and the hows, we'll probably never know the why.

Like I said before in my earlier post, based on all the things given thus far my own conclusion as to the why is that the capt wanted to be the hide and seek champ of the world. Landing intact and sinking to the ocean floor with an almost complete hull would certainly fit that narrative and intention. It would also explain the complete lack of floating debris.

newguy02 · Aug 12, 2015

kwaigonegin said:
read my earlier postings.. I've said those very things as well. While we may eventually know the whats and the hows, we'll probably never know the why.

Like I said before in my earlier post, based on all the things given thus far my own conclusion as to the why is that the capt wanted to be the hide and seek champ of the world. Landing intact and sinking to the ocean floor with an almost complete hull would certainly fit that narrative and intention. It would also explain the complete lack of floating debris.

Good points and looking back on this tragedy it is both sad and scary that it is most likely a pilot instead of someone else that brought the plane down and I think that if in the future if it is confirmed to be the pilot, people are going to have a hard time trusting airline crews no matter how experienced they are.

kwaigonegin · Aug 12, 2015

newguy02 said:
Good points and looking back on this tragedy it is both sad and scary that it is most likely a pilot instead of someone else that brought the plane down and I think that if in the future if it is confirmed to be the pilot, people are going to have a hard time trusting airline crews no matter how experienced they are.

Pilots are humans too.. as long as we rely on human drivers, things like that is bound to happen. Luckily there are so much safety features built in these days you almost have to purposely want to crash the plane to actually do it but it's still far from bullet proof. A drunk, sleepy or incoherent crew can still ignore beeps, sounds or read things wrong.

newguy02 · Aug 12, 2015

kwaigonegin said:
Pilots are humans too.. as long as we rely on human drivers, things like that is bound to happen. Luckily there are so much safety features built in these days you almost have to purposely want to crash the plane to actually do it but it's still far from bullet proof. A drunk, sleepy or incoherent crew can still ignore beeps, sounds or read things wrong.

Yeah even well trained and experienced pilots make mistakes but I do think it will be beneficial to have a mandatory rule that at least two people have to be in the cockpit at all times to prevent something like the germanwings incident from happening again.

shen · Aug 12, 2015

kwaigonegin said:
Pilots are humans too.. as long as we rely on human drivers, things like that is bound to happen. Luckily there are so much safety features built in these days you almost have to purposely want to crash the plane to actually do it but it's still far from bullet proof. A drunk, sleepy or incoherent crew can still ignore beeps, sounds or read things wrong.

We can never take the human factor out. As long as there is aviation, there will be crashes. But the unacceptable thing about this crash is not so much the crash, rather that the plane is still missing and we are nowhere closer to finding it. That is entirely preventable with today's technology. For example, Canada is already implementing an airline transponder system that relies on satellite rather than ground stations. So the airlines are always within line of sight and constantly report their locations. The only thing preventing widespread implementation of such system is greed of the airliners.

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