Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)
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Jura The idiot
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I believe these will be used to counter the "swarming" speedboat condition, which is a very small minority of the types of situations he LCS would experience.SUW module little Helfire and 2 x 30 mm a joke a stupidityagainst warships... there will not always have to hunt pirates... !!!
This has been a fantasy all along...putting far too much emphasis on such things. But with changing administrations sometimes you get individuals into power who are so focused on the wrong threat that they skew things that way.
Luckily, this has finally been recognized and things are being done about it.
With the US Navy official announcement, I am convinced that the SSCs will have:
- Harpoon or LRASM for the principle ASM
- Air Defense Sensor Upgrades
- Air Defense Weapons Upgrades (Which I believe will be VLS ESSM and Std missiles)
- Advanced EW system
- TAS
- 2 x 25mm secondary guns
- 1 x Seahawk capable of ASSW
- 1 x Firescout UVAV
Let's see what they actually do now.
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Brumby
Major
I guess we will wait and see.
If they do not add any VLS with longer ranged AAW missiles than the RAM, and do not add a OTH, much heavier ASM (which should be able to fired from the VLS), then IMHO, the SSC will be a joke and they will be whistling past the graveyard.
The very reason for the SSC was to address those very issues, and I believe the announcement on the US Navy site is indicative that they intend to.
Like I say, we will just have to wait and see now.
Jura The idiot
General
SSC summary using pictures found at
Caption A modified Littoral Combat Ship design based on the Lockheed Martin Freedom-class. US Navy Image
YELLOW = New/Upgraded Capability
Torpedo Countermeasures
Multifunction Towed Array
Upgrade to SeaRAM
OTH Surface-to-surface Missile
Upgraded 3D Radar
Upgraded EW System
Upgraded CM Decoy System
Mk 38 25mm Guns
Added Vital Space Armor
Improved Signature Management
(10 items)
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Caption A modified Littoral Combat Ship design based on the Austal USA Independence-class. US Navy Image
YELLOW = New/Upgraded Capability
Torpedo Countermeasures
Multifunction Towed Array
OTH Surface-to-surface Missile
Upgraded EW System
Upgraded 3D Radar
Upgraded CM Decoy System
Mk 38 25mm Guns
Added Vital Space Armor
Improved Signature Management
(9 items)
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no VLS for SAM:
... and no minesweeping http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/world-armed-forces/littoral-combat-ships-lcs-45-3993.html#post318669
P.S. As you can see, in that USNI News article the 25mm is specified (the USN press-release only said
Caption A modified Littoral Combat Ship design based on the Lockheed Martin Freedom-class. US Navy Image
YELLOW = New/Upgraded Capability
Torpedo Countermeasures
Multifunction Towed Array
Upgrade to SeaRAM
OTH Surface-to-surface Missile
Upgraded 3D Radar
Upgraded EW System
Upgraded CM Decoy System
Mk 38 25mm Guns
Added Vital Space Armor
Improved Signature Management
(10 items)
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Caption A modified Littoral Combat Ship design based on the Austal USA Independence-class. US Navy Image
YELLOW = New/Upgraded Capability
Torpedo Countermeasures
Multifunction Towed Array
OTH Surface-to-surface Missile
Upgraded EW System
Upgraded 3D Radar
Upgraded CM Decoy System
Mk 38 25mm Guns
Added Vital Space Armor
Improved Signature Management
(9 items)
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no VLS for SAM:
according to
... and no minesweeping http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/world-armed-forces/littoral-combat-ships-lcs-45-3993.html#post318669
P.S. As you can see, in that USNI News article the 25mm is specified (the USN press-release only said
it seems to be
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Looks to me like they are trying to get the [mostest for the leastest] in which case they are going to get exactly that if these things are actually used in conflict as in the bodies of dead seaman floating in the water I hope some one comes to their senses and cancels these things before its to late and by the way did any one read about any fire fighting or combat damage control improvements? The only other thing is that may there is some improvements to sea ram as in range and lethality that we don't know about as yet say bout 12-15 mile range for without a reasonable stand off air defense capability they will always have to operate under a air umbrella. And doesn't sea ram in its current form only carry 12 missiles not all that many when facing a well armed and trained air opponent is it?