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taxiya

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PiSigma said:
I don't know where u guys got google translate being good. I am in France right now (ATM in Nimes) and I am having a hard time with google translating menus and questions.
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Google translation of a word to another language is not reliable regardless languages because single word has no context and multiple meanings that may not exist in the target language. If you put a full sentence or better yet the paragraph, the accuracy of google translation is good. Try it by copy paste an paragraph of an article.
 
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taxiya said:
Google translation of a word to another language is not reliable regardless languages because single word has no context and multiple meanings that may not exist in the target language. If you put a full sentence or better yet the paragraph, the accuracy of google translation is good. Try it by copy paste an paragraph of an article.
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what you say is true, but the accuracy changes some details that might be crucial to understand something, so it only gives you an idea and in simple phrases and sentences a relative good translation, but it is not that precise and reliable.
 
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b787 said:
what you say is true, but the accuracy changes some details that might be crucial to understand something, so it only gives you an idea and in simple phrases and sentences a relative good translation, but it is not that precise and reliable.
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Of course, it is only good (accurate) enough to a point but never precise (100%). I mean even two people talking face to face with their common native language can not reach 100% acccuracy (my understaning of precise). I was trying to say that from my usage of google translation among various European languages, google translation can do a better job than Forbin's English. That is my honest opinion.

BTW, just out of curious, who is your avatar? She is pretty. No mocking :)
 
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b787 said:
It is easy to ask some one to learn a language and another do it your self, I am not a native Speaker of English but i know learning a language has a curve.

For example if a person learns a language before age 5, will be able to speak it as native or very close to it, but if you learn it after that age you will have an accent plus some semantic problems thus that person will speak the language not very well.

Another factor is how close is the second language to your native language.

For example I am a native speaker of Spanish, i can understand pretty well Portuguese which is basically old Spanish with some changes.

Italian is a little bit harder, French is next in line, but Russian, is very hard for me, despite originally Russian and Spanish share a common root but the time they branched off was earlier, Russian and Spanish share a common root of perhaps 2800 years ago, but Spanish and Portuguese branched off less than 700 years ago.

Chinese for me is pretty hard, same is Japanese since they are not indoeuropean languages but came from Altaic and Turkic origins.


Also if you are in your late 30s it is very hard to learn a foreign language, for example if Forbin learned the language after his late 30s, he will have troubles to speak it properly.


In few words you can say to him man up, he can tell you learn french and man up, so you can not be intolerant i tell you because my step mother learned Spanish quiet old, around the age of 55, her Spanish is not great and full of mistakes, but her nephew Speaks fluent and good Spanish, why well he learned Spanish when he was teenager.
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Your excuses don't make him learn the language.
You need to whip him up into shape. He is in the military ffs.
Stop pleading. If he genuinely liked your pleading, my perception of French Navy would drastically change.
 
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antiterror13 said:
Hiya Forbin ..... I will be in France for 2 days on 3 and 4 Dec this year, just Paris unfortunately
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Right now your not welcome ! maybe change, you have begin in 1st here since a while
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/china-flanker-thread-ii.t3720/page-615#post-473499
If you want do a step no problem i wait you.

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Of course, it is only good (accurate) enough to a point but never precise (100%). I mean even two people talking face to face with their common native language can not reach 100% acccuracy (my understaning of precise). I was trying to say that from my usage of google translation among various European languages, google translation can do a better job than Forbin's English. That is my honest opinion.

BTW, just out of curious, who is your avatar? She is pretty. No mocking :)
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FRA Forbin destroyer.jpg
 
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b787 said:
what you say is true, but the accuracy changes some details that might be crucial to understand something, so it only gives you an idea and in simple phrases and sentences a relative good translation, but it is not that precise and reliable.
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post 25 a fool ! :D :rolleyes: without arrogant all/almost reliable members even " naysayers " say i post good for milit things and i think I was already interested in this when it was not yet born hehe
But yes yestarday again aznd sometimes even for few wotrds the sentence don't make sense, difficult !
I try post short better but sometimes diificult i talk too much hehe :)

PiSigma and now your location ? :)
 
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