It is an old picture from 2014. Indians are using a propaganda for Pangong Tso 2020. The story is a PLA soldier got lost and went into Indian territory.
Ladakh Flash Point
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I think at the strategic level, CCP is still hoping to work with India.
If you take the long term outlook, it is almost an absolute certainty that China will be the long pole in the tent in terms of GDP and technological output and growth after 2030.
US and EU (along with UK) is in decline, at differing speeds, but there is no access capacity to pull along developing countries.
And the LARGEST developing country is..... India.
India has much potential but it really need to get its shit together.
China has much to offer India, but India needs to become a secular society that values science and technology more than spiritualism. It is a hard transition, as in some ways, it has to become less Indian.
I think China has more to offer India and would be on terms much better than the West. But India need to be less thrifty and accept sacrifices up front as the Chinese did in the 80's and 90's.
India suffer from the worst populist democracy where nothing gets done and a uniquely India short sightedness on their strategic planning and posture, going after every nickel and dime when every minute means millions. Pile on top of that an epic level of delusion and crackhead level of optimism, at this rate it is edging ever closer to GAME OVER with no reset button, real quick.
However, I really don't see the Indian elites making that epiphany until the decline of Western liberal order is complete, in about 10-15 years time. Unfortunately, by then automation and AI would have absorbed any low skill labor cost advantage India might momentarily enjoy. When that happens, India would have to have to wait another technological revolution at another chance to reach middle income, and that might be at least 50 to 100 years away, and the barrier to entry will be vastly higher than it is today. Once general intelligence AI is matured in 30+ years, then the value of human input would be marginal at best.
There will be NO population dividend, it will be a huge implosion.
Their ticket out of shithole-ville is already fast expiring. They are literally holding 1/2 a ticket as it is. In reality, they have a less than 10% chance of making the last train on the globalization low skilled labor express.
It's rather tragic to see 1.4+ billion people sunk to irrecoverable poverty for at least the next century.
Hate them or love them, I don't think CCP want to see a basketcase of fuckups of epic proportions next door, hence the restraint, hoping that there is still some real strategist in India.
By the recent awards by IA, the Chinese should abandon all hope and extend the great wall against the inevitable flood of refugees.
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Wouldn’t put it past them to do something like that. They truly are getting desperate.
Details are never their strong suit. The PLA are wearing blue camos in the Bollywood production of Galwan incident.
The USN officer gave the IN 3/10 score. He gave the INS Delhi a higher chance of becoming a coral reef than actually hitting targets. Even in a conflict against Pakistan. And India is boasting of using the Indian Navy to blockade China out of the Malacca Straits. Against the PLAN, an upcoming rival to the USN. LOL! You can't make this sh*t up.
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Let’s not underestimate the enemy, This AMA was in 2011, so 9-10 years ago... the Indian Navy might be 4/10 now
Based on the USN officer answer above. I doubt that the Indian Navy boys would have improved by much (if any). Yeah the Indian Navy had added newer and much better ships since 2011. So has the PLAN, but on a much larger scale in terms of tonnage and capability.
Remember, that back in 2011, India was still run by Manmohan Singh. That India, although very flawed, is still nothing like the clown-show that we are seeing right now. Judging by India and its military culture in 2020-2021. Could we really say that their military culture would have improved since 2011? It looks more like a regression is actually going on, despite the addition of newer toys. So 3/10 could have dropped to 2/10 even with the new toys added.
But you're still right. Never underestimate the enemy. Better to treat them with sufficient respect and overperform, than to underestimate them, and get a nasty surprise. But China must also not underestimate the enemy's stupidity. A PLA negotiation party was ambushed at Galwan. China cannot rule out more stupid moves by India. That should also include their stupid threat to blockade the Malacca Straits.
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China already has a Great Wall... it’s called the Himalayas...
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