Ladakh Flash Point
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Another passage from the Taiwanese military analyst. Indians basically waded into the stream without investigating the depth/current flow. The combat rods they used should be used as a crutch/measuring stick, not some twirling baton for splashing water.
I take it that the Taiwanese military aren’t fans of the Star Wars kid either.
India claimed up to F8. This is a fact. During the past, IA soldiers patrolled up to F8.
If India never did any of this, why wouldn't India accept China's 1959 deal in the past? Which gives India at least up to F4 and more if they negotiated. India never accepted because it wanted up to F8. Your own claims mention everything up to F8.
It never occupied it like PLA did last year because it was disputed. China wouldn't allow India occupy it during dispute unless it accepted some deal to settle it for good.
LOL so PLA occupying F8 to F4 which is Indian claim isn't India then losing their claim which is regarded by Shukla et al as india land?? Now it's another form of India losing their claim in the form of not having access to F3 and beyond.
By now you should know that claims are different than control. Both India and Pakistan claim each other's Kashmir, India claims Aksai Chin, and China claims Arunachal Pradesh. The reason why India never patrolled or occupied past finger 4 is becasue CHina effectively controlled it after 1962, creating the de facto lac that both sides agreed to observe in 1993. BTW, India still claims up to finger 8. You still have not provided evidence of India trying to violate the 1993 agreement.
This Taiwanese guy is just brutal... Not even Chinese military fans on CJDBY or Weibo mock Indian Army like this. Taking it way too far...
Sure but China controlled land that was disputed between the two - F8 to F4 for a year while IA was unable to reverse this control. Control is the next after claim. By controlling India's claims at Galwan to Pangong, China was able to bargain for the deals it's been offering India with more power and better position. India agreed to whatever deal was eventually offered and amended to get disengagement.
AP China is claiming but has no control over. China hasn't yet tried to control it any more than India has tried to control Aksai China but both are claimed by sides while being controlled and under the sovereignty of the other. These are a bit more different that what has happened at Ladakh. Since AP and AC have not become inflamed in recent years to the same degree. With respect to these parts, China has wanted to do swaps and offered such in the past but again India has refused. India has wanted to keep ALL of AP disputed including some parts that China is currently controlling while also taking AC away from China and keeping Kailash, Galwan, Depsang, Pangong (in the entirety of India's claims).
This is the first time India has agreed to a deal. If anything it indicates the Chinese leaders from the 1960s were right. Make offers to swap and/or compromise (yes okay China's claims are unreasonably deep into India to make their offers more palatable) but refuse to give in to India's claims and simply guard and shelve the disputes until the future where one side is clearly dominant. This has proven to have worked after 60 years of development.
Based, sane, sensible Indians in comments.
BJP Jai Hind troll farm workers still going to persist with their narratives until the powers that facilitate them are no more.
As much as some may feel that a BJP (or equally ideologically dominated) group leading India is doing good for India's competitors and adversaries, it really is a double edged sword and there is simply no cooperation or coexistence with the level of animosity between India China since BJP. As much as Jai Hind trolls want to refute with empty statements simply saying the opposite.
But... Normally we don't ban stupid people. But from what I see, that thing is not stupid, he is just a troll who bait normal people to lose their cool... Then they can have a good laugh.
Looking through multiple posts... I surmmarise the few points... 1) Indian ambushed five unarmed Chinese negotiators with as much as 200 plus armed soldiers. 2) they got beaten back by 20 or so, Chinese reinforcement.
However, I know many will not like it when I say this... 1) the Indians don't just appear in that area... And according to leaked information... They hv planned that ambush. 2) as they are amassing troops, shouldn't the Chinese already be alerted and more men should already be deployed. So when the five was attacked, reinforcement should already appeared. 3) has the intelligence department in PLA screwed up this time round?
However, I know many will not like it when I say this... 1) the Indians don't just appear in that area... And according to leaked information... They hv planned that ambush. 2) as they are amassing troops, shouldn't the Chinese already be alerted and more men should already be deployed. So when the five was attacked, reinforcement should already appeared. 3) has the intelligence department in PLA screwed up this time round?
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