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twineedle said:
I see you are stillt rying to cope with the fact PLA had to retreat from its own territory, as per its own 1959 claim line.

Anyway, it's hilarious how China is doing exactly what they say India is doing, retreating from its own claimed territory. If that is a defeat for India adn positive for China, I guess India does not need victories.
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Indeed, after trying to be hero & being humiliated by getting beaten, freezing to death, story making is the biggest safe heaven or utopia for indian apes tweedie.

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jfy1155 said:
According to Indians their Brahmos missiles will win the war against China
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Unlikely. Chinese airfields are not near the border. Brahmos has to go through kunlun mountain range to hit hotan airfield in xinjiang.
Yet Indian airfield at Leh is very close to Aksai chin.

The geography is just overwhelming against India on the western side. Their supply line go through the treacherous Himalayan mountain which can be easily destroyed yet Chinese side supply line at plain or plateau level.

Pak and India , back and forth actions took alot out of India.
Even low intensity of War of attrition between China and India at the border will bleed India to death.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
It has been pretty much confirmed that the incident was planned well in advance by India. They even have a name for it, Operation Snow Leopard. The survivors also received decorations for it. A supposed internal document was somehow leaked.
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Is that leaked document still around?

Seems obvious they were prepared and actually planned this. That takes guilt away from Babu and rests it on the Indian military. I mean they were armed and equipped with helmets and riot gear, iron bars, and shields. All while the PLA were still in the same equipment as shown during earlier hugging and shoving matches where both sides were wearing no protective equipment.
 
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quantumlight said:
The new antimissile tests China did, can they stop these Brahmos missiles?
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Probably not, mid course ABM missiles are quite different from regular anti-air missiles.

I say probably because "HQ-19" is rumoured to be also capable of terminal stage interception.
 
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ougoah said:
Is that leaked document still around?

Seems obvious they were prepared and actually planned this. That takes guilt away from Babu and rests it on the Indian military. I mean they were armed and equipped with helmets and riot gear, iron bars, and shields. All while the PLA were still in the same equipment as shown during earlier hugging and shoving matches where both sides were wearing no protective equipment.
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ougoah said:
Is that leaked document still around?

Seems obvious they were prepared and actually planned this. That takes guilt away from Babu and rests it on the Indian military. I mean they were armed and equipped with helmets and riot gear, iron bars, and shields. All while the PLA were still in the same equipment as shown during earlier hugging and shoving matches where both sides were wearing no protective equipment.
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Unlike you know who, I don't post stuff with zero proof. When I do I usually label it as hearsay or unverified. Luckily for you, I've got the document handy.

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Breaking News: The highest ranking Indian General in Ladakh & Kashmir confirms that No patrol zone in Pangong will be between F-4 and F-8 and not F-3 and F-8.
Only reason India is dismantling structures built near F4 is because they did not exist before April 2020. As per agreement both sides must demolish all structures built since Apr 2020. Which means only remaining structures will be India DST post near F3 and China post near F8.

But no patrol zone is between F4 and F8

concerns that India has ceded land/patrolling rights from Finger 4 to 8, which is where our claim line lies. How do you explain this creation of buffer zone? What have the Chinese given up on the North Bank for the creation of this buffer zone?

The situation in April 2020 was that Indian Army was occupying Dhan Singh Thapa Post as its last Post at Finger 3 and PLA’s first post on its own side was East of Finger 8. PLA used to patrol till Finger 4. As per our perception, the LAC ran along Finger 8 whereas Chinese perception of LAC was till Finger 4. Post-April 2020, PLA occupied areas till Finger 4, constructed dug outs, Sangarhs, helipads, pitched tents and created other structures.

In the current understanding, both the sides have gone back to April 2020 scenario in which our last post remains at Dhan Singh Thapa Post and PLA goes back east of Finger 8. Both sides have accepted not to patrol the area between Finger 4 and 8, which is the area of differing perception. Some people are trying to create a misperception that by accepting this no patrolling area, we have lost out to PLA. The fact is that it is huge success for us. Firstly, PLA is moving back beyond our claim line that is Finger 8. Secondly, this agreement denies them the advantage of patrolling till Finger 4. In fact PLA will not be carrying out any activity, military or otherwise in the areas claimed by us. Thirdly, they will be restoring the entire land form within our claim line and dismantling all the structures that were created post April 2020. Hence, the realities have to be understood in the correct perspective.

At one point in time PLA was not accepting to vacate this area between Finger 4 and Finger 8, but once the tables were turned on August 29/30, it was forced to negotiate as per our terms.
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Kakyan said:
Breaking News: The highest ranking Indian General in Ladakh & Kashmir confirms that No patrol zone in Pangong will be between F-4 and F-8 and not F-3 and F-8.
Only reason India is dismantling structures built near F4 is because they did not exist before April 2020. As per agreement both sides must demolish all structures built since Apr 2020. Which means only remaining structures will be India DST post near F3 and China post near F8.

But no patrol zone is between F4 and F8
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