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Sardaukar20

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Maxef208 said:
What I am wondering is why did China agree to use these vehicles for the photo op and ceremony rather than the Type 15's. I can only assume that either China doesn't have as many Type 15's deployed as they claim(though if I were China I'd pull just 2 for this photo op) or they agreed with Indian to use older tanks so that it would play better at home to show the populace they pushed away an inferior enemy like the movies and not have them wanting vengeance or get too excited seeing a tech disparity between the T-90's and Type 15. I mean if it is the latter, it'll only work for so long before the Jai Hinds are asking why India won't just go on the offensive if China has inferior tech right?
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I don't really know. My guess is that China have never intended to have photo ops for their tanks facing the Indian tanks at the border. What 'propaganda' the PLA showed off is still done with far less jingoism than how its done in India. Perhaps its down to the national policy not to inflame the situation too much. Is it right or wrong? History shall judge.

Furthermore, as another member had said, the Type 15s are still not available there in large numbers. It only just arrived in PLA service. The PLA of the Western Theatre Command was until only recently, low priority. That's why they were still fielding many legacy tanks like the Type 88. It was out of necessity to put a sufficient tank force there. Rather than a perfect tank force.

So I doubt placing inferior tanks was done on purpose to give overconfidence to the Indian side. India won't need that anyway. Its media, the Bhakts, and the Jai Hinds are already bloated and bursting full with overconfidence. Luckily there are still cooler heads in India. Keeping that overconfidence from pulling triggers.
 
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Come now... what can you expect from the Indians who can entertain the idea of Pakistani trained terrorist locusts, they believing these 2 are true is not actually far-fetched in the slightest... plus don’t forget, China also apparently bombed a glacier to cause the glacier collapse disaster recently... sometime one has to wonder what runs through the Indian mind...
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India is full of straying holy cows, hence you expect a lot of bullshits out from that country.
 
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Latest update.

india lost 600 square miles of territory including statratgic location such as Galwan Valley, Gogra and Hot Springs to China.


"Since then, there have been multiple attempts at disengagement and de-escalation on the disputed border, but the political and military talks—the last one was held on Nov. 6—have been futile. The Chinese have refused to restore the pre-May status quo in Ladakh, where they now control an additional 600 square miles of territory."

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Hi everyone,a longtime lurker here reading and learning but I now have to comment on the apparent psychosis of the Indians as their cognitive dissonance is truly frightening.The recent TASS article that probably regurgitated the Indian news/press is now convincing Indians that the Chinese are lying about their deaths at Galwan when Trump /Pompeo would have immediately shown sat /drone photos ,communications intercepts to show the dozens of Chinese dead /injured to egreatly embarrrass the Chinese and wouldn't the captured IA LtCol and 2 majors have seen and heard something about all the casualties at the PLA camp?I hope Beijing keeps its guard up in SinoIndian border as after the Indians folded after the Biden/Modi phone call -which obviously did a 180degree about face in US support these JaiHind idiots are still dangerous like a street person/drug addict/alcoholic whose actions are unpredictable and comes from a source of mental/psycho-emotional issues.Even more so now as false courage,bloated brittle ego with a huge underlying inferiority complex can lead to stupid irrational violence.
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Just to give you an idea.

600 square miles = 1554 square Km.

The size of Singapore is only 728 squre km.

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Bassically, China got 2 Singapores from india in the this conflit with tiny tiny tiny loss.



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Ringsword said:
Hi everyone,a longtime lurker here reading and learning but I now have to comment on the apparent psychosis of the Indians as their cognitive dissonance is truly frightening.The recent TASS article that probably regurgitated the Indian news/press is now convincing Indians that the Chinese are lying about their deaths at Galwan when Trump /Pompeo would have immediately shown sat /drone photos ,communications intercepts to show the dozens of Chinese dead /injured to egreatly embarrrass the Chinese and wouldn't the captured IA LtCol and 2 majors have seen and heard something about all the casualties at the PLA camp?I hope Beijing keeps its guard up in SinoIndian border as after the Indians folded after the Biden/Modi phone call -which obviously did a 180degree about face in US support these JaiHind idiots are still dangerous like a street person/drug addict/alcoholic whose actions are unpredictable and comes from a source of mental/psycho-emotional issues.Even more so now as false courage,bloated brittle ego with a huge underlying inferiority complex can lead to stupid irrational violence.

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lol

Dont worry. if the indians try anything stupid. They will lose another 600 square miles of land if not more.

After this land loss, the need to lick their wound, and the only way they can do is lying on wikipedia and make up BS stories. Since the indians are simply incabple of winning any military contest against China.

Trust me, after they folded this one, they will think 3 times or 10 times before they make any move, because they know that no matter what kind of BS news they can win on the internet, the will lose 100,000 WORSE in real life that is losing more land to China, which is what really matters.

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Ringsword said:
Hi everyone,a longtime lurker here reading and learning but I now have to comment on the apparent psychosis of the Indians as their cognitive dissonance is truly frightening.The recent TASS article that probably regurgitated the Indian news/press is now convincing Indians that the Chinese are lying about their deaths at Galwan when Trump /Pompeo would have immediately shown sat /drone photos ,communications intercepts to show the dozens of Chinese dead /injured to egreatly embarrrass the Chinese and wouldn't the captured IA LtCol and 2 majors have seen and heard something about all the casualties at the PLA camp?I hope Beijing keeps its guard up in SinoIndian border as after the Indians folded after the Biden/Modi phone call -which obviously did a 180degree about face in US support these JaiHind idiots are still dangerous like a street person/drug addict/alcoholic whose actions are unpredictable and comes from a source of mental/psycho-emotional issues.Even more so now as false courage,bloated brittle ego with a huge underlying inferiority complex can lead to stupid irrational violence.

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If the Indians are confident about their supposed victory at Galwan then they wouldn't be harping about PLA casualties 8 months after the events have transpired.

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Why is moving 200 tanks back by 20km in 2 days such a big deal anyway? I understand that for strategic movement you need to lift up the tanks and load them onto trucks or trains and what not. But surely for a 20km drive you can just drive them on their track? That's like a 30 minute drive.
 
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