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BTW, Jai hind is a slogan indian trolls sing when they get BANND !!
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indian dectected.
BTW, Jai hind is a slogan indian trolls sing when they get BANND !!
I am from Germany and work in England. I honour everyone's opinion but consider my opinion so so. I didnt find the Indian or pakistani forums quality either. This forum can also improve. I won't get into politics of any country.
For all the noise between Indians and chinese, none can win against each other. My comment is well intended and i can become an equal opportunity victim.
The chinese opinion currently is also completely opposite to every international opinion out there. They have frictions currently with every Tom, Dick and Harry if these can be countries. Fine with me. I am just here to give a sober opinion and hopefully getting treated soberly.
lol, you are from Germany?
I see, you are indian from Germany but works in England.
Hahahaha, you sure you are not indian ?
BTW, indian detected. (You had bad grammar which is a Classic trait of indians)
Jai Hind !!
Not sure if this was posted before, but I found this very interesting lecture given by retired major general on the China-India border conflict (I've linked his baike, chrome translation is very good).
It seems he confirmed that the first death in Galwan Valley clash is a Chinese communications officer. His account of the events is from 5:08 to 7:55 in the video translated below:
In the lecture Jin Yinan also talks about India's strategic perspective and reaffirms how China never viewed India as a strategic threat and never wished for conflict with India. He mentions that four of China's five strategic battle lines are ocean facing in the east. The Indian border was of the least concern. He finds it quite perplexing why India would want China to prioritize the China India border for its strategic considerations.
It seems he confirmed that the first death in Galwan Valley clash is a Chinese communications officer. His account of the events is from 5:08 to 7:55 in the video translated below:
In the lecture Jin Yinan also talks about India's strategic perspective and reaffirms how China never viewed India as a strategic threat and never wished for conflict with India. He mentions that four of China's five strategic battle lines are ocean facing in the east. The Indian border was of the least concern. He finds it quite perplexing why India would want China to prioritize the China India border for its strategic considerations.
Answer: ENVY !!
This has been corroborated by one of the episodes from this series, where Xiyazhou aka Asian Train Master interviews an individual from the Chinese Intelligence Agency. The latter states that he has connections on the frontline and has shipped chocolates and milk powder to his friends on the frontline. Even though the conditions have improved, it is still very harsh.
According to him the military snack ration (a type of protein bar with chocolate mixed in) is decent but breaks apart too easily when soldiers carry them on patrols. That seems like a problem they need to rectify.
He also mentioned in numerous episodes that it s very difficult to staunch bleeding at high altitudes.
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There's a difference in how the Sino-Indian war of 1962 is perceived on both sides. To India it is still a point of tremendous trauma. As the Indian speaker in this video put it, "Sino-Indian war in 1962 caused a larger trauma to India than the than 150 years of violation by the British Empire". At the time India had a sense of optimism post colonialism, a sense that it has ascended beyond the shackles of Imperialism and can manifest its destiny and lead Asia. That relatively small conflict with China shook those perceptions.
Here's an overview of the video:
When the host asked the Chinese expert if China has this kind of complex, he said "There's a difference in strategic thinking between the two nations. Actually we don't perceive India as the main strategic competitor to overcome. I can honestly say with all my years of experience in the upper echelon of the military, China never made India its main strategic opponent".
This statement visibly upset the Indian guest, "The main problem is that you look down upon India. The issue is India hasn't received fundamental respect". Chinese expert replied with "We haven't viewed the UK and Germany as the main strategic opponent, does that mean we look down upon them? No, this issue doesn't exist."
Indian guest stated, "Whenever there is friction (between India and China) you don't take India seriously". Then the Chinese expert goes on to say flattering words like how the "Chinese military respects India in certain areas such as software, pharmaceuticals, lots of Indian programmers working in the West, etc. China's view that India isn't a strategic competitor doesn't involve a pejorative view. It must be assessed with considerations of how much of a threat and level of hinderance to long term development they have towards China. We take an objective view and don't want jeopardize the fate of nations over some boarder issues. I don't think India wants to either so this should be the basis of future friendly relations. We must both see the existence of this objective foundation."
It seem like to China this conflict is mostly a relic of history thus can take a more pragmatic approach. While to India it is viewed mostly through an emotional lens with the feeling of disrespect. China doesn't view India as the enemy, to India this is offensive.
Despite all that Indian tough talk, we haven't seen a single piece of T-72 or T-90 there. They have airlifted 4 T-90s in one PR stunt and that was it. They make a show for everything even things they don't have and haven't done. The Chinese show at least prove what they've been saying is true that being they've positioned Type 15 right up to the very lines (new ones). The grainy Indian photo showing two sides and vehicles only had a few IFVs on the Indian side and there were what look to be Type 15s on the Chinese side.
Chinese discussions are confident Type 15's frontal armour cannot be penetrated by even 2a46 from T-72 or India's T-90. They say those tanks only have about 500mm RHA penetration at over 1km and the one piece sabot from Type 15 can penetrate those vintage model T-72 and T-90, not that the Indians could even operate those tanks at those altitudes.
The Indian media and Modi media make a show for every kg of material they can bring up there and even set up fake army hospitals for photo ops with Modi. They would show off T-90s if they could bring them there but they've only airlifted a few token tanks to points that are close to 100km away from the frontline.
The Indians even presented a Chinese photo from an exercise as their own! That's how lowly these losers are. So it's clear they want to bring a lot of material over but they are both unable to and most of that equipment is not designed for operating even above 3000m. The atmospheric changes are extreme.
The Indians instead of reinforcing their frontline with material put some photoshopped Indian flags into Zhiruhe exercise photos from China. There were a few Indian reports last year that presented Chinese photos of PLA equipment as their own. Pathetic. Some were even shared on this thread maybe a thousand pages ago lol. From this exercise below.
The Indians instead of reinforcing their frontline with material put some photoshopped Indian flags into Zhiruhe exercise photos from China. There were a few Indian reports last year that presented Chinese photos of PLA equipment as their own. Pathetic. Some were even shared on this thread maybe a thousand pages ago lol. From this exercise below.
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