Ladakh Flash Point

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rhino123

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Sardaukar20 said:
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Another Indian media take on the same Chinese village story. This summary of sub-headlines best summarizes the article:
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China entering 60-70km into Indian perceived territory is quite some distance. The average 'width' of Arunanchal Pradesh is roughly 140-150km according to Google Maps.

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Off-course, the actual layout of Arunanchal Pradesh (AP) is much more complex. But for layman's POV, lets see what if BJP Tapir Gao's claim is taken as correct. That China is building that village around the halfway point of AP. That's would be quite deep into Indian claimed territory of Arunanchal Pradesh. If China were to use that village as a border point, that would split AP into half across its length. There is a lot of Indian settlements who could be falling into Chinese territory. Tawang would fall right inside China's territory. LOL! Although I would agree to China doing this. I doubt that China would do something this provocative when tensions are so fever high. Those are not no-man's-land. Those are populated areas.

If you're on the side on India in this dispute, that must be alarming. That could have provoked a war. But all we hear is silence from the top leaders of India. So more realistically, I suspect that this village is not that deep into AP. Probably its on the edge of northern AP from the Chinese side. BJP Tapir Gao merely extended India's claim 60-70km into China. That greedy SOB. Its probably their typical media spin. Not unusual, since they have claimed before that all of Tibet belongs to India.
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To BJP MP Tapir Gao, make up your mind. Has China enter 60km or 70km into India territory? By making claims like 60 to 70km... Only show that you don't even know your own territory. What an incompetent leader. No wonder India has become a constant global joke.
 
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The ridges of Arunachal Pradesh, permeated with thick forest, is as delineated as Ladakh Border with China.

Again, the Indo China border wars and battles that spanned a decade is responsible for this.

While India and China both chose to leave it as be, both nations continued to assert their own territorial claims even after the war.

However, there are winners and losers in war. China managed to physically claim the Aksai Chin region while scaling back its troops from South Tibet (Arunachal Pradesh).

However, China hasn't scaled back in South Tibet to fit perfectly India's claims ( why should it?) and this is where the "40-60 km encroached" situation arises.

The reality is that China is physically in control of certain regions ( mountain valleys, ridges) that India perceives to be its own - in some places its 10 km while in other 40-60 km.

Contrasting with the Ladakh region, it's not the high altitude or cold desert that is the issue in South Tibet, it's the thick vegetation and jungle.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
I agree. Indian media shouldn’t make a big deal out of it.
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It's a tricky situation for India.

If India ignores it , it means that the territory is China's or has been lost to China.
If India doesn't ignore it, it has to engage in meaningful action on this.

The best response for India is to construct a similar village or infrastructure at a place that protrudes into China's border.
 
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Xsizor said:
It's a tricky situation for India.

If India ignores it , it means that the territory is China's or has been lost to China.
If India doesn't ignore it, it has to engage in meaningful action on this.

The best response for India is to construct a similar village or infrastructure at a place that protrudes into China's border.
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I recall reading a news story that locals in Ladakh have been ferrying goods for the Indian Army without pay for sometime now, and many of them aren’t happy about it. If they don’t have the infrastructure/logistics to provide for the IA in the region, what makes you think they could match China’s village building efforts?
 
MwRYum

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Xsizor said:
It's a tricky situation for India.

If India ignores it , it means that the territory is China's or has been lost to China.
If India doesn't ignore it, it has to engage in meaningful action on this.

The best response for India is to construct a similar village or infrastructure at a place that protrudes into China's border.
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Or, in response to Joe Biden's inauguration, launch an artillery strike on that location, at the same time go full-on PR offense globally to get US onboard, go maximum pressure on China.

You see, members of the Biden Administration has set the tone for Sino-US relations in the next 4 years, pointing at the direction of further escalation on the foundation built up by the Trump Administration, thus India actually has an opening there, all that is needed is some resolve on New Delhi's part.

Question is, can Modi got the courage to pull that off?
 
Nobonita Barua

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MwRYum said:
Or, in response to Joe Biden's inauguration, launch an artillery strike on that location, at the same time go full-on PR offense globally to get US onboard, go maximum pressure on China.

You see, members of the Biden Administration has set the tone for Sino-US relations in the next 4 years, pointing at the direction of further escalation on the foundation built up by the Trump Administration, thus India actually has an opening there, all that is needed is some resolve on New Delhi's part.

Question is, can Modi got the courage to pull that off?
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What kind of tone? They are giving same "bipartisan" speech fatso pampoo gave in Twitter after Donnie got shut down there. Do they have any sorts of capacity to act other than speech? What happened to striking scs island?
 
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MwRYum said:
Or, in response to Joe Biden's inauguration, launch an artillery strike on that location, at the same time go full-on PR offense globally to get US onboard, go maximum pressure on China.

You see, members of the Biden Administration has set the tone for Sino-US relations in the next 4 years, pointing at the direction of further escalation on the foundation built up by the Trump Administration, thus India actually has an opening there, all that is needed is some resolve on New Delhi's part.

Question is, can Modi got the courage to pull that off?
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From what I read, it seems that Biden Administration is actually trying to de-escalate the tension. Could you include your reference?
 
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