Ladakh Flash Point

hashtagpls said:

It's precisely that sort of disingenuous and petty behaviour of Indians as a people in politics and culture that makes me want to see them destroyed or dismembered as a viable state...

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escobar said:

Same motivations...

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Mohsin77 said:

This is hilarious. Key quote from this Indian paper: "Sources said that so urgent was the need that the US was requested to provide all possible stocks that could be spared." .... Where are all those Wehrmacht-wannabe Indians that flooded this thread a few months back? What happened to your 'blitzkrieg' guys?

Jokes aside... I do feel some pity for the Indian grunts stuck in this theater... I know what -40 Celsius feels like, and it's not fun. Once you have all the kit you need, you can fight in -40. But proper winter kit is very expensive. Your need combinations of GoreTex, Down, Merino Wool etc. These are expensive materials, especially when the clothing design itself has to be technical. Look at the prices of Arcteryx shells and jackets and Icebreaker base layers etc. And the side whose soldiers are not kitted properly, they have no chance. It's not a matter of willpower, but combat effectiveness. It doesn't matter how motivated you are, you can't pull the trigger if your fingers are literally falling off due to frostbite.

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PiSigma said:

I don't think India can afford arcteryx gear. If you look at their leaf line (military grade gear) it is pretty expensive. I used arc'teryx leaf for winter hikes, and it is definitely worth the money paid for it.

And of course arcteryx is owned by a Chinese company now lol.

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Mohsin77 said:

It's really a sub-section of Indian society that's like that, and I think it's mostly based in certain politically powerful regions. But there are many other Indians who are great human beings. After all, Arundhati Roy is an Indian and she is one of my favorite people in the world. She's basically India's Chomsky. I hope Indians like her win out in the end.

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Mohsin77 said:

...? Fallacious reasoning. That's like saying that killing an innocent person is the same as giving the death penalty to a convicted serial killer. The end goal may be the same, but motivation is completely different.

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escobar said:

And his "good" motivation to want India destroyed is their "despicable behaviour ingrained in the culture".
US hawk say exactly that about China Gov, with the objective to dehumanize chinese to justify war. He says the same as these people.
His motivation is not different.

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These are form 29 sep 2020 not sure if posted elsewhere.

Biggest facepalm ever! Frankly I think the Indians have bigger problems then climate gear... we all know and joke around with the atrocious quality of Indian ammo and now we have numbers to confirm... I mean forget about ordering new planes, tanks or even rifles... maybe they should order some working ammo first...

I am half joking and half serious... but the Indians should order rifles from Norinco to save some money... It’s not like they have the ammo to use them anyway and then suck it up and order some cheaper climate gear, something is better than nothing, from some random private corp in China, via a middleman if necessary, so their poor soldiers don’t die for the gov incompetence...

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