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Bright Sword

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A rather amusing Indian article on Yaks claiming their hooves behave as suction cups. Discounting the Indian nonsense, we recently had the case of a PLA soldier in Ladakh assisting Yak herders.
Are Yaks still in traditional use in China in those mountains? Unlikely...
China has excellent infrastructure for transport of materials as well as an advanced dairy industry. Prepackaged cheese, butter condensed milk, are easily transported. Due to the small population of Yaks their wool also is likely available in very small quantities to substitute Merino sheep wool or synthetic fiber. As pack animals over uneven terrain, snow mobiles, and ATVs could do everything a Yak does and more.

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Found in Himachal Pradesh, Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh, the yak is the most important species for highlanders in these areas. In Ladakh, it faces one of the harshest environments. It feeds on grass with leaf blades barely an inch long at high altitudes in the summer, descending to lower ranges in the winter. An excellent pack animal for snow-bound areas - its cup-shaped hooves create a vacuum, allowing it to walk easily on ice - the yak can cover 25-30 km per day, carrying loads up to 125-150 kg.
 

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A rather amusing Indian article on Yaks claiming their hooves behave as suction cups. Discounting the Indian nonsense, we recently had the case of a PLA soldier in Ladakh assisting Yak herders.
Are Yaks still in traditional use in China in those mountains? Unlikely...
China has excellent infrastructure for transport of materials as well as an advanced dairy industry. Prepackaged cheese, butter condensed milk, are easily transported. Due to the small population of Yaks their wool also is likely available in very small quantities to substitute Merino sheep wool or synthetic fiber. As pack animals over uneven terrain, snow mobiles, and ATVs could do everything a Yak does and more.

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Found in Himachal Pradesh, Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh, the yak is the most important species for highlanders in these areas. In Ladakh, it faces one of the harshest environments. It feeds on grass with leaf blades barely an inch long at high altitudes in the summer, descending to lower ranges in the winter. An excellent pack animal for snow-bound areas - its cup-shaped hooves create a vacuum, allowing it to walk easily on ice - the yak can cover 25-30 km per day, carrying loads up to 125-150 kg.
Well I don’t know the specifics but I am pretty sure there are still Tibetan/local people who still live in more remote regions, who would still be dependent on yaks no? Not saying that China doesn’t have all the bells and whistles mentioned but there are still traditional tribes and remote villages right? Considering that there are still remote villages in the core regions of China today, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are villages and herders in the Ladakh area...

At least that what I thought... so I never thought the excuse or ‘fact’, which ever people choose to believe, of a PLA soldier helping a herder find a yak to be all that ridiculous, since the PLA is suppose to help the people is part of the ideology drilled into the PLA... just my two cents...
 

Nobonita Barua

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Off topic for this thread but an interesting point.
If you will move this conversation to the Indian Caste Factor thread we can review what the UC Kolkata bhadralok really think of Bangladesh and its culture.
Naah, i would rather let it go. As i have said before, india doesn't bother us to the slightest, except some Z bangla, Star plus TV serials which have hardcore fan here.
We could care less about what kotkotis think about us. In bengali, we have colorful nicks for them which are unappropriate for this place.
Bha-rats are simply rats who don't worth the attention.
 

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The F18 offer should not be new news, here is an article from Feburary:
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It is unclear what the Indian doctrine is in investing in aircraft carriers.
India faces a very slight naval threat from its only adversary in the Arabian Sea. Use of carriers in a defensive mode to protect its western coast is an expensive option as coastal anti-ship missiles and land based naval strike aircraft could perform the same role in the shorter distances needed in the Arabian Sea.
If India is seeking to project its power to destroy an adversary air assets either as a punishment, blockade or prior to a full blown invasion then an aircraft carrier makes sense. The last time India carried out a carrier based strike was in 1971 in East Pakistan. It used vintage Sea Hawks and turbo-prop Alize aircraft and its only opposition were 6-8 F-86 Sabres with dwindling ammunition, and fuel and heavily sabotaged maintenance by hostile ground crew.
In the present scenario against the same adversary an Indian aircraft carrier is likely to face a barrage of anti-ship missiles, from coastal batteries, guided missile boats, air and submarine platforms.
India is not facing a rival navy that is projecting its power from 12,000 km away and must be tackled furthest from the coastline.
It appears that with China in mind India is dreaming ( with emphasis on "dreaming") of playing side kick to its senior partners in future operation in the SCS or Malacca Straits.
 

Bright Sword

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We could care less about what kotkotis think about us. In bengali, we have colorful nicks for them which are unappropriate for this place.
Off topic once again, and the aforementioned thread for this would be appropriate. Issues such as why the Bangladesh national anthem lyrics had to be written by a person from another country (for whom you have "colorful nicks" for) could still be discussed.
But let's move on.
 

Nobonita Barua

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" why the Bangladesh national anthem lyrics had to be written by a person from another country "
Lol, which is this another country? West Bengal was part of undivided Bengal that was divided by brits, including 7 sisters.
India is not a country, its a name of an entity that was shaped into different countries.
In fact, Rabindranath tagore, a bengali wrote "india"s national anthem.
 

Bright Sword

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West Bengal was part of undivided Bengal that was divided by brits, including 7 sisters.
India is not a country, its a name of an entity that was shaped into different countries.
In fact, Rabindranath tagore, a bengali wrote "india"s national anthem.
My last 2 cents before I get kicked out of this forum.
Bangladesh became a nation in 1971 long after the British left, and "West Bengal" was part of India.
For want of a better option Bangladesh does have the right to choose the lyrics written by a certain person even if he has a "colorful nick".
Cultural and linguistic chauvinism get detrimental beyond a certain point...
 

Nobonita Barua

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My last 2 cents before I get kicked out of this forum.
Bangladesh became a nation in 1971 long after the British left, and "West Bengal" was part of India.
For want of a better option Bangladesh does have the right to choose the lyrics written by a certain person even he has a "colorful nick".
Cultural and linguistic chauvinism get detrimental beyond a certain point...
Firstly,by that logic, Bangladesh doesn't exist because when British left , there was no Bangladesh.

Secondly, Bangladesh has the right to choose anything, because by the first logic, india itself wasn't same as now when british left. We are familiar with their "invasion" history.
I don't thing they have the "right" to claim everything based on mahabharat history. Either both of us can do or none can. You can't leave it like that midway.

"Cultural and linguistic chauvinism get detrimental beyond a certain point "
I agree. They started it.

We are simply finishing it.
 
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