Are they sure it isn’t the planet Venus?
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Are they sure it isn’t the planet Venus?
plawolf
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It’s a paper loss at best, and a phantom, unrealised, temporary one in reality because it’s just a calculation of the value of the $2 stock price dip. Much like the nature of all of India’s ‘gains’ on the boarder tbh.
It's jealousy that drives them. Think about it, both CCP China and modern India came about just after world war 2. At that time India was much more well endowed than China was with twice as much railway length for example.
Also much of China was war damaged, from war with Japan and civil war with KMT. In addition, the US was helping the KMT taking all the wealth and assets including gold reserves to Taiwan.
Chinese people were left with nothing and therefore very poor and starving. China was literally on its knees.
India's own superiority complex because it is a 'democracy'. Couple with western support and leeway which allows India to get away with annexing neighbouring states.
So when all these taking into account, Indians ought to be the next superpower that they aspires to be. Alas no, not only they are nowhere near superpower status. They found themselves behind the very people they had look down on all those years ago. So the red mist of envy set in.
manqiangrexue
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In the coming days, the news will read,
"India launches Missile at Moon mistaking it for Chinese Satellite; Veers off course, Striking ISS."
Then in the article, "Malfunction in the warhead detonation mechanism of missile saves ISS from total destruction. ISS dented but still functional."
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We insult their pride. The Indians believe that they're #2 after Whitey, but to see the Chinese do well when India hasn't been able to do as well, it challenges their superiority complex.
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Right now, what I can isolate as the problem with India is that India had democratic government for decades, but India failed to develop its educational system for fear of disrupting traditional society. If India can truly fix its education, then India will by itself choose the correct policies and modernize on its own.
AssassinsMace
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Making up a fake war is the only thing they can do. It's ironic where they associate democracy with the truth when it's actually making up more lies to convince the voters not to get rid of the those who are in power, in this case the BJP in government, because of the embarrassments of their handling of the situation. You see it in the US with Trump and you see it in India. They just got whooped by the Chinese in melee combat. They don't really have bragging rights. When you lie to your people on how great they are and then they get embarrassed, that can spark a lot of anger at home. Hence why the fake war rhetoric. I watch YouTube videos regarding China. I don't really watch anything about India but for some reason my home page has all these videos of fake news channels from India about how bad China is and how great India is. And like I tell Americans who think they can beat China... Why don't you start the war then if it'll be so easy for you? They throw it out there like a terrorist hoping you'll be afraid but when called out on it, they have nothing else. And they wonder why China doesn't allow US social media companies in? It's because that's how they'll spread propaganda just like making it out that democracy is about the truth when no, it's really more open to lies because they don't want voters acting against their wishes. I can see why why Beijing wants the Chinese people as apolitical as possible. They can stir nationalism like how they do it in the US and India but then it can get out of control. If the domestic audience gets angry because their government does nothing but stir up anger by diverting attention away from their own embarrassment, that can turn against them and that's where the mistakes happen and accidental wars can start.
Right now I'm reading how India has trained Tibetans as special forces because one was just killed from a land mine. Is that something to brag about? Just remember during the Cold War the CIA trained thousands of Tibetans in the US to start an insurgency in Tibet against China. Every single one them that were sent into China by the US was never heard from again. It was one of the CIA's greatest failed operations in their history.
Right now I'm reading how India has trained Tibetans as special forces because one was just killed from a land mine. Is that something to brag about? Just remember during the Cold War the CIA trained thousands of Tibetans in the US to start an insurgency in Tibet against China. Every single one them that were sent into China by the US was never heard from again. It was one of the CIA's greatest failed operations in their history.
This just goes to show how well moderated SDF is compared to IDF. These comments are what you would find on something like 4Chan ... a big thanks to @siegecrossbow in particular for moderating this political section and not letting it turn into a cesspool like those Indian forums.
One thing I want to point out for alpha strikes. Hardening aircraft shelters is potentially a great move; the Indians cite a cost of 7 million per hardened shelter, so China at most would shell out 10 million per hardened shelter.
See, the funny thing is, with shelters being significantly cheaper than heavy stealth aircraft, you can put quite a few hardened shelters out. A hardened shelter for 50 million aircraft could see up to 3 hardened shelters per actual operational plane, with empty hardened shelters acting as decoys to absorb enemy anti-airfield hits.
What makes this so great is that you'd end up having more hardened shelters than what's actually in use at any given time. The hardened shelters and the infrastructure used for the airbase could potentially support way more planes than are on location; i.e, you could have the airbase infrastructure needed to support multiple air brigades at any given point on the map, but most of the time targeting these brigades is like shooting clouds; i.e, nothing important gets hit, nothing important gets destroyed.
See, the funny thing is, with shelters being significantly cheaper than heavy stealth aircraft, you can put quite a few hardened shelters out. A hardened shelter for 50 million aircraft could see up to 3 hardened shelters per actual operational plane, with empty hardened shelters acting as decoys to absorb enemy anti-airfield hits.
What makes this so great is that you'd end up having more hardened shelters than what's actually in use at any given time. The hardened shelters and the infrastructure used for the airbase could potentially support way more planes than are on location; i.e, you could have the airbase infrastructure needed to support multiple air brigades at any given point on the map, but most of the time targeting these brigades is like shooting clouds; i.e, nothing important gets hit, nothing important gets destroyed.
The biggest problem with these thinkers in India is that even though they actually might know very well how disadvantageous India is at, they will not risk their reputation and popularity by telling the Indian public the truth in a blunt way. Therefore they will overestimate the importance of factors like “international support”, or "more international sympathy towards India", etc. This is very naive of them. The same thing is true for Taiwan.
This is actually very bad for India, (as well as Taiwan), because they didn't even understand the real intention of China.
China WANTS these potential adversaries to get in the habit of relying on outside help when they confront. This might seem very counter-intuitive. But if you understand Chinese political philosophy as well as history, you will know that the CCP fears not a cry-uncle adversary who place their confidence solely on an external power. CCP only consider a truly independently minded adversary as a real threat.
What is an independently minded adversary? One who has the will and resolve to pursuit his goal even against overwhelming odd, and persists. One who only believes in and rely on himself. "The most Wise and Resourceful Odysseus".
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