Haha, my turn to pull your leg. " Taiwan straight or SCS. " It should be Taiwan Strait, smiles.
Ladakh Flash Point
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I read the complete paper it is amazing how the exercise and training took place.
1. But the same exercise, how it is useful towards the Ladakh it is completely mountains area?
2. These exercises, how do they communicate while driving their vehicles? I saw the US exercise where they used certain equipments to communicate. Even they had the facility to share data during moving?
3. All these moving of vehicles and everything, is the same affected by the Cyber?
any paper on the above questions please share.
Thank you in advance
Yeah I stumbled upon this video recently as well. The Malaysian pilots seem to be a little too rigid like you said, at least in the shown videos. Maybe it has to do with their airforce determining the optimal WVR tactics and getting pilots to only replicate it or this one is the only allowed tactic when used in training against foreign pilots? Maybe it could also be one set of tactics they are trying to test out against foreign piloted hornets in particular. But then they also own the Fulcrum and Hornet as well. Messy airforce and politically motivated acquisition programs. Wouldn't read too much into just this guy's shown clips.
What I've noticed in readings from alleged pilots who flew against flankers, the flanker is really difficult to beat WVR unless you somehow force them to play to your fighter's strengths. The J-11As were beating Thai Gripens WVR pretty convincingly. If DCS physics are close to reality, the flanker nearly always ends up dominating a dogfight if pilot skills and experience were more or less equal and suited/familiar with their fighter.
Equipping the flanker with upgraded BVR abilities is what Russia did with the Su-35 and China did with the J-16 and I'm sure the new J-15, even the old J-11Bs are receiving new AESA and PL-15. The only real downside with the modern 4.5 gen flankers is the RCS. Thrust vectoring can be useful but AESA and better missiles are probably the upgrades that give the greatest boost.
Well the RMAF Su-30MKM pilots did received some training from the IAF Su-30MKI pilots. Perhaps some of the over-emphasis on air show maneuvers, and rigid tactics were passed on to the Malaysian pilots?
The Su-30MKI/MKM is still an amazing machine. But victory is always decided by the pilot, not the machine. The IAF pilots have a reputation of overdoing the spectacular in WVR dogfights as evidenced during their trainings with USAF pilots in the past.
The PLAAF pilots also like to pull off those air show stunts. I just hope that they are more mature than the IAF and RMAF pilots on WVR combat.
I think the PLAAF pilots and doctrine are much more realistic. They have trained with the Thai, Russians, and Pakistanis and should know the difference between stunts and what real WVR demands. I don't think it would have been so easy otherwise for the antiquated J-11A to beat the Gripen C in WVR so convincingly. BVR of course went to the Gripen without saying. It has much smaller RCS and more modern missiles and radar. Indians love to claim the J-11As lost BVR but always forget to mention they won WVR. It was also early 1990s Su-27SK (J-11A) vs late 90s early 2000s Gripen C.
The training with the Thais as you have mentioned was Falcon Strike 2015. An experienced PLAAF Flanker pilot described the J-11As capabilities at BVR as essentially an embarrassment vs the Gripens. It should have been a wake-up call for the PLAAF that the backbone of its Flanker fleet, the J-11s is poor at BVR combat. But he also went on to mention that the J-10s fared much better against the Gripens. So in a hypothetical air war with India, the J-10s, not the Chinese Flankers would be the key player. But Chinese Flankers are still important for long range CAP. So, I just wonder how many of the more up-to-date J-11B/ J-11D with AESA radars, and reduced RCS have been produced? It seems like an urgent thing to fix, considering all the hostilities that are going on right now.
On the topic of joint training with foreign air forces. I would like to see the PLAAF train with the Singaporean Air Force. These guys are considered the best in SEA, and they have the F-15s. The PLAAF needs to train against the F-15s, considering that these are among its greatest threats.
The J-11B and J-10C is now the backbone in terms of numbers. Maybe there are still more J-10A variants than the B+C types but surely the J-11A was not the backbone not even back in 2015. Now the main frontline backbone is J-11B, J-10C, and J-16.
I think the J-11B upgrades with AESA and integrated with newer missiles will not include RCS reduction like attempted on the J-16. It's not a new variant just old frames receiving new radars and missiles.
Not completely following your posting, but you deserve props for proposing moderate or light positions in a China vs India thread.
I don't know why it is so often claimed that China lost the 1979 war against Vietnam. Prior to the PLA offensive, China already made it clear that the PLA was to not advance further than the provincial capital of Lang Son. On the other hand, the USSR also made it clear that it would escalate the conflict, probably by opening another front in Northern China (their military exercises in Mongolia just weeks after the war ended was an indicator) if the PLA was conduct more than a relatively limited and brief offensive.
Once the PLA crossed the border and the offensive began, the VPA was defeated by the PLA in virtually every single major engagement of the war. Of course, the PLA sustained more casualties than it should have, due to faults ranging from having outdated individual equipment all the way up to decisions made at the operational level. In any case, all major engagements concluded with the VPA withdrawing at best, or their units being effectively destroyed at worst. At the end, their provincial capital was captured and secured, while the VPA was in no position to counterattack and retake the city even despite pulling a couple divisions back from Cambodia as reinforcements. And when China unilaterally declared the war over, the VPA was powerless to stop the PLA from pillaging and plundering their way back to China. The war ended with China also holding on to almost all the areas that were disputed prior to the brief war. Given all the above, I fail to see how this conflict was particularly ill-fated for China.
To conclude, the biggest (and possibly only) reason why the PLA didn't run Hanoi over with a horde of armored vehicles was because of the threat of the Soviets launching an even bigger and better armored wall against China. What is also often forgotten is that after the war, the reformed PLA delivered numerous more severe beatings to the VPA throughout the 1980s until the end of the Cold War.
Source: Deng Xiaoping's Long War by Zhang Xiaoming, available on Google Books if anyone is interested in reading more
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