I beg to pardon, but from the photograph, we see more Air to Ground platforms than Air to Air. Unless we think that JH-7 and H-6 will be used to counter Indian's elements on air, I believe that those in Khasgar will be used to flattened Indian's ground elements instead. For H-6 has transform into missile trucks rather than a bomber, I think China's massage is clear. All India land is within their target range if India plan to raise the tension and go into hot war option. Because they can target India's nuclear sites in the south of India territory from Tibet air space.
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I beg to pardon, but from the photograph, we see more Air to Ground platforms than Air to Air. Unless we think that JH-7 and H-6 will be used to counter Indian's elements on air, I believe that those in Khasgar will be used to flattened Indian's ground elements instead. For H-6 has transform into missile trucks rather than a bomber, I think China's massage is clear. All India land is within their target range if India plan to raise the tension and go into hot war option. Because they can target India's nuclear sites in the south of India territory from Tibet air space.
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The best A2A method is to destroy enemy's planes on the ground, that's exactly what China would do in a war with India.
We could see satellite photos of airfields in Kashgar but what we won't see is the movement of PLARF TELs and PLA's MLRS to the Tibet, I believe that's also the dominant force if the war becomes real. We would see the demolition of IAF in the first few hours of the war, and it's not in the fancy scenario of those precious Su-30MKIs shot down by J-20, but blowed up with the hangars by 300mm rockets.
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Talk about IAF vs PLAAF is fanboy masturbation on the old 1 vs 1 scenario. PLARF will do 99% of the important initial work. India has basically no air defence outside of limited numbers of Kub copies (Akash) and even shorter ranged SPYDER missiles. They aren't equipped to even intercept cruise missiles with realistic chances, rockets and artillery shells will be impossible. IAF don't have bombers or large payload strike aircraft and if IAF wishes to achieve air superiority, they'd need to defeat PLA's air defence and PLAAF. They'd have enough trouble wrestling with just one of those let alone both. In the meantime, PLA totally outguns and outnumbers IA with far more and far better/modern/advanced equipment most of which IA doesn't even own. IA has no equivalent to PLARF and they have yet to induct Nirbhay missile.
Contrary to Indian media lies, China has received S-400 years ago and delivery is uninterrupted. Not that China will use S-400 since it's for training against India when India receives theirs, but my point is India is the one without the S-400. It could be a huge nuisance to PLAAF if India had some and knew how to operate them well but they don't and China's been training against the S-400 for about two years already.
What scenario in an India vs China fight in Ladakh leads to India gaining any upper hand and with what? Everything India has China has much better and more of. China has plenty of stuff India doesn't have e.g. cruise missiles, HALE/MALE UAVs, UCAVs, attack helicopters (sorry 4 or 5 Dhruv based gunships are nothing), light tanks, heavy long range artillery + MLRS (India importing Excalibur for the few 155mm they operate and one MLRS with half decent range), stealth fighters, bombers, better ATGMs, better satellites and ASAT, medium and long range air defence more modern than 1980s tech. Where is the fight? It's shooting fish in a barrel like the Americans would brag about when discussing hypothetical war between the US and China in the 90s.
If you expand this to including the economic and industrial might of the two nations, the difference is even greater. India only keeps up in some respects because it imports equipment wholesale. Navy gap is even greater. India has yet to complete their visak class STILL! PLAN started the 055 project after it and has nearly completed 6 already. PLAN's vessels are superior quality as well. 051C and 052B are both older than many of IN's defunct and obsolete vessels and despite serving PLAN for decades, they receive upgrades and refits. India's carrier is much less capable and smaller than even PLAN's training carriers and their future carrier is still smaller when it gets complete sometime in the future. Indian subs are the real joke even if Indians wish to make fun of Chinese subs. They rent them from Russia and they've yet to complete their own nuclear attack sub and when they do in the future, it'll be comparable only to China's long retired Type 091 in every respect except onboard electronics. Does India operate any Indian sub? How about AIP subs?
If the PLA is 10, IA is 5. PLAAF - 10, IAF - 7. PLAN - 10, IN - 2 in terms of overall gap. PLARF - 10, India - 0.5. "Super weapons"? India 0, PLA with hypersonic weapons, near space supersonic drones, hypersonic cruise missiles, laser weapons, more satellites, better ASAT, railgun, electronic warfare technologies which India is totally clueless about outside of getting some consultants and token platforms from Israel. Again where is the fight exactly? It's like a team of well trained special forces up against a smaller group of ragtag randoms who just picked up a rifle. Chinese side may not be experienced or even properly trained for modern warfare but India isn't either. I wouldn't count tying Kashmiris to jeeps for torture as military experience for IA. They'll get slaughtered in a real fight against the PLA and their leaders know it all too well.
If you expand this to including the economic and industrial might of the two nations, the difference is even greater. India only keeps up in some respects because it imports equipment wholesale. Navy gap is even greater. India has yet to complete their visak class STILL! PLAN started the 055 project after it and has nearly completed 6 already. PLAN's vessels are superior quality as well. 051C and 052B are both older than many of IN's defunct and obsolete vessels and despite serving PLAN for decades, they receive upgrades and refits. India's carrier is much less capable and smaller than even PLAN's training carriers and their future carrier is still smaller when it gets complete sometime in the future. Indian subs are the real joke even if Indians wish to make fun of Chinese subs. They rent them from Russia and they've yet to complete their own nuclear attack sub and when they do in the future, it'll be comparable only to China's long retired Type 091 in every respect except onboard electronics. Does India operate any Indian sub? How about AIP subs?
If the PLA is 10, IA is 5. PLAAF - 10, IAF - 7. PLAN - 10, IN - 2 in terms of overall gap. PLARF - 10, India - 0.5. "Super weapons"? India 0, PLA with hypersonic weapons, near space supersonic drones, hypersonic cruise missiles, laser weapons, more satellites, better ASAT, railgun, electronic warfare technologies which India is totally clueless about outside of getting some consultants and token platforms from Israel. Again where is the fight exactly? It's like a team of well trained special forces up against a smaller group of ragtag randoms who just picked up a rifle. Chinese side may not be experienced or even properly trained for modern warfare but India isn't either. I wouldn't count tying Kashmiris to jeeps for torture as military experience for IA. They'll get slaughtered in a real fight against the PLA and their leaders know it all too well.
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Frankly the CCP is just far too nice in not absolutely wrecking these morons while the rest of the world couldn't care less about India. Despite being constantly attacked by India and Indians in the press, the CCP is a gracious winner and the Indians are some really poor losers. You don't hear Chinese making excuses and twisting facts anywhere near the level these Modi bhakts do. They're really a source of shame and embarrassment to the level headed and reasonable Indians. If it were the US empire in place of China's here, they would have agent orange bombed most of India's jungles, massacred entire cities worse than the British and Churchill's forces, raped their way through to New Delhi and burned it down by now. Then they would have demanded reparations for "starting" the war and installed a US friendly government.
Sometimes I hope to see both getting down to some real actions, to gauge how far they have improved since 1962.
20 to 50 Indian soldiers killed and a further 60 captured are not "real actions"? Guess your expectations are too high then
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