Ladakh Flash Point

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Waqar Khan

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Nobonita Barua said:
Well in this finger finger game, i guess people will get clear picture of who is winning in what they are calling finger 4
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As per Col Ajai Shukla no withdrawal has taken place from Hot Spring, Depsang and Pangong lake areas,actually Indian Military has agreed to move back and create a buffer zone of 3 kms in Indian claimed territory in Galwan valley,that's a surrender.Why 3rd largest Army has failed its people?
 
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It's crazy, during my enforced absence. I've been to other forums and tweeters. The hatred of all things Chinese is unbelievable. What's more there's no logic in it. If it's anything to do with Chinese, you just hate it because.... it's like reflex reaction.

It remind of a comedy programme in the UK, in the late 80s early 90s, where a group of young Indian comedians taking a fun look at their parents love of all things India. The programme is called goodness gracious me. The forums have people like that all inhabit in it. It makes one wonder, how can China ever have dialogue with people like that? Even if politicians are educated and level headed, they still got to be mindful of the people like what I described. Because after all, they are the people the politicians get their supports from!

Anyway I'm not sure if this has been posted in my enforced absence. Apologies if it had. Here's the politicians trying to appease his supporters

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Anyway coming back to why I wanted post the first place is in response to India's manufacturing poweress. I'm not sure if the following claim is true. So please forgive if it's not. According to this, India'saremed forces body armour are manufactured in China!

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If they actually ban everything from china, Indian soldiers will have to fight naked. There is a good chance some of the zippers, buttons and material for their uniforms all come from china.
 
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mitbbs is just a news aggregator + forum where all kinds of stuff gets posted with little to no moderation, including both anti-China and pro-China tabloid type of material. The particular post I linked to was cross-posted on various Chinese forums and the content seems very plausible because most of the information we've already seen from other sources in bits and pieces and it connects them together.

The new info or claims (new to me at least) are regarding Chinese casualties:
  1. The lone Chinese liaison officer seen on video being beaten by Indian soldiers at Pangong Tso in May was severely injured and died several days later.
  2. On 6/15, after Chinese troops withdrew from the Galwan valley camp near the LAC, a few construction workers remained to look after the construction equipment that were to be shipped out the next day. These few construction workers were beaten by colonel Babu and his men, with 4 construction workers suffering serious injuries.
  3. In addition to the dead liaison officer from earlier at Pangong Tso and the 4 seriously injured construction workers, another 12 Chinese soldiers suffered light injuries in the fighting at Galwan valley after rescuing the construction workers.
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Google translate used to paddle fake news,no Chinese would write like that
 
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zbb said:
mitbbs is just a news aggregator + forum where all kinds of stuff gets posted with little to no moderation, including both anti-China and pro-China tabloid type of material. The particular post I linked to was cross-posted on various Chinese forums and the content seems very plausible because most of the information we've already seen from other sources in bits and pieces and it connects them together.

The new info or claims (new to me at least) are regarding Chinese casualties:
  1. The lone Chinese liaison officer seen on video being beaten by Indian soldiers at Pangong Tso in May was severely injured and died several days later.
  2. On 6/15, after Chinese troops withdrew from the Galwan valley camp near the LAC, a few construction workers remained to look after the construction equipment that were to be shipped out the next day. These few construction workers were beaten by colonel Babu and his men, with 4 construction workers suffering serious injuries.
  3. In addition to the dead liaison officer from earlier at Pangong Tso and the 4 seriously injured construction workers, another 12 Chinese soldiers suffered light injuries in the fighting at Galwan valley after rescuing the construction workers.
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Poor use of Google Translate,China does not use Liaison officers but Border Guards,the poor Chinese language used here shows that it was drafted by a poorly paid RAW troll,just to allow Godi Media to convince the hapless Indian public that Modi has a 56 inch chest
 
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Economic times is expert in churning fake news,last time they mentioned that PLAAF has moved its fighter squadrons into Pakistan,now they are claiming that Russian diplomacy played some role.India is trying to catch straws
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The most ridiculous article I saw from the Indian media was one which claimed that Russia "pressured" China to release the Indian troops and de-escalate tensions with India (i.e. withdraw from the Galwan valley). Does the Indian media not have any basic logical reasoning at all? Russia only stands to gain from the Sino-Indian border friction ... the recent Indian purchase of 33 Russian jets is a great example. The more hostiles erupt between China and India, the better it is for the Russian arms industry, which desperately wants India to fill China's void. For some reason, India likes to think Russia is a close ally or something, which is extremely odd. To put it in layman terms, India is like the husband who thinks his wife loves him for who he is when she is really there for his money and nothing else.
 
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The most ridiculous article I saw from the Indian media was one which claimed that Russia "pressured" China to release the Indian troops and de-escalate tensions with India (i.e. withdraw from the Galwan valley). Does the Indian media not have any basic logical reasoning at all? Russia only stands to gain from the Sino-Indian border friction ... the recent Indian purchase of 33 Russian jets is a great example. The more hostiles erupt between China and India, the better it is for the Russian arms industry, which desperately wants India to fill China's void. For some reason, India likes to think Russia is a close ally or something, which is extremely odd. To put it in layman terms, India is like the husband who thinks his wife loves him for who he is when she is really there for his money and nothing else.
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India's strategic maturity level is not really high, to begin with, and it is not growing over the decades either. To put it simply, India is clueless, and at the same time suffering from a grandeur sense of delusion on a collective scale.

India is often frustrated by how she is not treated/treated as a superpower by the West. Why is that so ?

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hullopilllw said:
India's strategic maturity level is not really high, to begin with, and it is not growing over the decades either. To put it simply, India is clueless, and at the same time suffering from a grandeur sense of delusion on a collective scale.

India is often frustrated by how she is not treated/treated as a superpower by the West. Why is that so ?

related article.

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Ya,great analysis in this article,Indian policy makers and planners have a skewed sense of every thing called Bolywoodism and lot of people believe in this illusion
 
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