plawolf
Lieutenant General
Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread
How much of a test did the Libyans truly offer the likes of the Rafale or Typhoon?
Unless you fought a worthy adversary, 'combat proven' is just another marketing gimmick and is way over-rated. Does anyone seriously think the likes of the F15 or F16 would enjoy anywhere close to their 'combat proven' kill ratios if they went up against Soviet/Russian Mig29s and Su27s?
So what did the wars these western planes have flown in tell us about their true capabilities?
Besides, the JH7s have taken part in joint Chinese-Russian anti-terror exercises. But I do not see how that makes it a more or less valid exercise than what the JH7 crews practice by themselves.
Hell, international events like Red Flag is probably less intensive in terms of training difficulty than what the participants do by themselves at home because of the strict RoEs imposed at such events by both the organisers and participants themselves, as no-one wants to risk an incident at such events, and everyone hold back a little as they do not want others to get a true gauge of how good their men and machines are or learn too much about their tactics.
the issue with the JH-7 or most indigenous chinese aircraft for that matter is all we have to go on is their technical specifications. As far as I'm aware none of these aircraft has ever been tested in combat so their true capabilities remains unknown. I am also unaware of these aircraft being tested in exercises that replicate real combat conditions such as Red Flag or other multinational war games nor do we even how good the chinese aggressor squadrons are. Maybe someone who is very familiar with PLAN or PLAAF can chime in.
How much of a test did the Libyans truly offer the likes of the Rafale or Typhoon?
Unless you fought a worthy adversary, 'combat proven' is just another marketing gimmick and is way over-rated. Does anyone seriously think the likes of the F15 or F16 would enjoy anywhere close to their 'combat proven' kill ratios if they went up against Soviet/Russian Mig29s and Su27s?
So what did the wars these western planes have flown in tell us about their true capabilities?
Besides, the JH7s have taken part in joint Chinese-Russian anti-terror exercises. But I do not see how that makes it a more or less valid exercise than what the JH7 crews practice by themselves.
Hell, international events like Red Flag is probably less intensive in terms of training difficulty than what the participants do by themselves at home because of the strict RoEs imposed at such events by both the organisers and participants themselves, as no-one wants to risk an incident at such events, and everyone hold back a little as they do not want others to get a true gauge of how good their men and machines are or learn too much about their tactics.