JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

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the size of this aircraft may require more powerful engine than said WS-15. one engine come to mind old D-30K engine.
 

Blitzo

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Can a mod please move this the last few pages into the bomber thread (I think the bomber thread is called H-6 discussions incidentally, maybe rename that into PLA bomber discussions?)
 

Jeff Head

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Can a mod please move this the last few pages into the bomber thread (I think the bomber thread is called H-6 discussions incidentally, maybe rename that into PLA bomber discussions?)
This is indeed an interesting and very nice looking and capable looking model.

It will be interesting to see if an actual prototype of this aircraft ever comes forward.

And, FYI, the long range strike YF-23 mod is still on the table.

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In addition, for the US, the following design is still out there (among others) for the long range larger bomber. Just no decisions yet, and probably not for several years on either aircraft.


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Not to mention the continuing US designs for a hyper-velocity, high altitude recon aircraft with potential limited strike capability But quite frankly, I think the Skunk Works already has a ulta-secret NRO aircraft operating that meets this need.


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But, back to HJ-7/JH-7A.

I got my JH-7 model last week and will now build it after I finish my HSM Illustrious in 1/350 scale. I have several Chinese to choose from that I own. The J-20, the J-15, the J-10, the J-11B, a Z-10, and this JH-7...but since this JH-7 model is a real challenge, requiring a lot of modifications to the fuselage to get it right, I decided to do it next, and build it as the JH-7A.

Hehehe, Bltzio, I will even add two anti-shipping missiles on there for you!
 

i.e.

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@jeff.

Long range bomber project is on.

The us one.

which is prompting china to officially kicked started its own recently.
 

hardware

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Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

PLAAF been seeking a replacement for H-6 since late 80's ,the russian offer TU-26 backfire,but backfire by it's age,the design may consider dated.advent of "look down shoot down" radar in the mid-70's not to mention the complexity of swing wing mechanism, make swing wing less attractive.
new design is needed.
the contractor likely is XAC,since XAC been constructing H-6 since mid-60's,may possess experience and facilities constructing large aircraft.
 
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Blitzo

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Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

This is indeed an interesting and very nice looking and capable looking model.

It will be interesting to see if an actual prototype of this aircraft ever comes forward.

And, FYI, the long range strike YF-23 mod is still on the table.

21stf23.jpg

In addition, for the US, the following design is still out there (among others) for the long range larger bomber. Just no decisions yet, and probably not for several years on either aircraft.


21stbomber.jpg


I believe the YF-23 bomber version was proposed sometime after Northrop lost the ATF and when the idea for a "theatre bomber" was floating around (FB-22 was a similar proposal) -- but I believe the theatre bomber, supersonic bomber, and NGB have all been consolidated into the singular LRS-B which is to be a subsonic flying wing bomber to be built in large numbers to replace B-52s, and will emphasize EW/hacking as well as possibly yield an optionally piloted capability.

So I do not think the YF-23 mod is on the table. It may have made sense early last decade when Northrop could still leverage some of its YF-23 experience, but in 2013 demands have changed, budgets have shrunk and YF-23 is still what it is -- a failed demonstrator for the ATF competition (unfortunate, given it is one of the best looking aircraft ever developed imho). But northrop do seem to be the main contractor for LRS-B -- it may leverage an X-47B-like shape.

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Not to mention the continuing US designs for a hyper-velocity, high altitude recon aircraft with potential limited strike capability But quite frankly, I think the Skunk Works already has a ulta-secret NRO aircraft operating that meets this need.


21strecon.jpg


I too would be surprised if the USAF don't have some super secret high performance aircraft in a hangar somewhere in nevada. Its sortie rate, mass production potential may be another question, however.
I am a little skeptical if they have a real functioning hypersonic aircraft though. I mean I doubt the US would all those X programs (51, 43, falcon) if they had a fully functioning, effective and reliable hypersonic vehicle.

But, back to HJ-7/JH-7A.

I got my JH-7 model last week and will now build it after I finish my HSM Illustrious in 1/350 scale. I have several Chinese to choose from that I own. The J-20, the J-15, the J-10, the J-11B, a Z-10, and this JH-7...but since this JH-7 model is a real challenge, requiring a lot of modifications to the fuselage to get it right, I decided to do it next, and build it as the JH-7A.

Hehehe, Bltzio, I will even add two anti-shipping missiles on there for you!

Hehe much thanks!
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

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Its not just the US the Russian air force also has a requirement the PAKDA (no I did not miss spell that and no known relationship to the T50) in the world their are only three powers with bombers the US, Russia and the PRC
 

i.e.

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PLAAF been seeking a replacement for H-6 since late 80's ,the russian offer TU-26 backfire,but backfire by it's age,the design may consider dated.advent of "look down shoot down" radar in the mid-70's not to mention the complexity of swing wing mechanism, make swing wing less attractive.
new design is needed.
the contractor likely is XAC,since XAC been constructing H-6 since mid-60's,may possess experience and facilities constructing large aircraft.


if Tu-22M backfire is outdated then H-6/Tu-16 belongs in junk yard.

For a fast maritime strike mission Tu-22M Backfire is still very dangerous.

Moderninzed H-16 actually would be a better ISR/Jammer persistent recon platform then a bomber...

its not really that survivable.
 

Blitzo

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if Tu-22M backfire is outdated then H-6/Tu-16 belongs in junk yard.

For a fast maritime strike mission Tu-22M Backfire is still very dangerous.

Moderninzed H-16 actually would be a better ISR/Jammer persistent recon platform then a bomber...

its not really that survivable.

H-6K does its job as a cruise missile carrier, though... And it should be a decent persistent bomb truck if the PLA ever faces a low intensity situation requiring a constant orbiting precision bombing platform.
 

i.e.

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H-6K does its job as a cruise missile carrier, though... And it should be a decent persistent bomb truck if the PLA ever faces a low intensity situation requiring a constant orbiting precision bombing platform.

yeah that's what's its good for, but so is a modified Tu22M which can lift more, fly faster and further.
 
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