JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

Lion

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Hi guys, whats new on FC-1/JF-17? Thetre havn't been any newson new weapon integration, load increase or engine improvement/change. noteven any new pics...

I think Chengdu is too busy with many projects. It cant even get a J-10B project and production done so what do you think about JF-17?
 

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sales brochure for JF-17.
showing JF-17 capability from Raad cruise miissile,brazilian Mar-1 ARM and C-802 anti ship missile.
the first picture show conformal fuel tank .
 

SteelBird

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I don't think there is any conformal fuel tank in any picture. If there were any, it would have been declared in the detail. Maybe just a drawing/editing error that make it looks like a bump. There has never been any confirm about conformal fuel tank on JF-17 yet.
 

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sales brochure for JF-17.
showing JF-17 capability from Raad cruise miissile,brazilian Mar-1 ARM and C-802 anti ship missile.
the first picture show conformal fuel tank .

the info is correct apart from conformal fuel tank and i doubt we would see one as Pakistan has just got 4 x IL-76 Midas tankers so the need for conformal tanks has diminished

Mar-1, Pakistan got 100 of these missiles from Brazil in 2010 to be used with JF17

infact JF17 can use such a vast array of missiles its very impressive, its user friendly and allows for easy integration with systems from East to West and also indigenous

having the capability to launched land attack cruise missiles from a stand-off distance is a great asset to have and not many countrys have this capability, Ra'ad can reach deep into enemy territory

JF17 Thunder defines the word Multi-role aircraft, and it is very exciting to wait for naval sqaudron equipped with C-802 to go live along with ZDK-03, together they will cover vast areas of Arabian and Indian Ocean

Thunder Block II will get AWACS integration and mid-air refueling, Block III will get WS13 and 2 seater version even then there is no plan to get conformals good brochure though
 
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I personally find the supposed ability for SD-10s to be carried on wingtip rails, and also on dual racks, as both interesting and also not demonstrated as of yet. Also the centreline ECM pod is a nice add on.
But this does seem like a legitimate brochure (does anyone know where they were presented? An expo or the like?).

The integration of MAR-1, Ra'ad and C-802 (possibly along with LS-6, as demonstrated with CAC test flights) will dramatically enhance JF-17's strike capability. I assume MAR-1 and Ra'ad integration was done by PAC themselves at PAF's request rather than CAC, which is a good foresighted plan. I wish PLAAF would go ahead and integrate J-10 with the various targeting pods and wide plethora of PGMs available, but I suppose having a fleet of dedicated strikers they can be forgiven somewhat.

Also it's a nice picture of JF-17 firing Ra'ad. I wonder if the pictures of JF-17 carrying SD-10s on wingtip, and MAR-1, and the ECM pod, are PSes or not. Something about them don't look right.
 

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I personally find the supposed ability for SD-10s to be carried on wingtip rails, and also on dual racks, as both interesting and also not demonstrated as of yet. Also the centreline ECM pod is a nice add on.
But this does seem like a legitimate brochure (does anyone know where they were presented? An expo or the like?).

The integration of MAR-1, Ra'ad and C-802 (possibly along with LS-6, as demonstrated with CAC test flights) will dramatically enhance JF-17's strike capability. I assume MAR-1 and Ra'ad integration was done by PAC themselves at PAF's request rather than CAC, which is a good foresighted plan. I wish PLAAF would go ahead and integrate J-10 with the various targeting pods and wide plethora of PGMs available, but I suppose having a fleet of dedicated strikers they can be forgiven somewhat.

Also it's a nice picture of JF-17 firing Ra'ad. I wonder if the pictures of JF-17 carrying SD-10s on wingtip, and MAR-1, and the ECM pod, are PSes or not. Something about them don't look right.

the dual racks have been seen on J-10 for a while now. And we've definitely seen pictures of J-10 with PGMs.
 

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Also it's a nice picture of JF-17 firing Ra'ad. I wonder if the pictures of JF-17 carrying SD-10s on wingtip, and MAR-1, and the ECM pod, are PSes or not. Something about them don't look right.

To admit (IMO) they are all psed ! :( ... IMO this is a nice fan-art collage of what the JF-17 might carry but not a real representation. As far as I know the SD-10 is too heavy for the wt-pylons, the ECM-pod is much too large and both the ARM and ALCM are slightly off ...

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I personally find the supposed ability for SD-10s to be carried on wingtip rails, and also on dual racks, as both interesting and also not demonstrated as of yet. Also the centreline ECM pod is a nice add on.
But this does seem like a legitimate brochure (does anyone know where they were presented? An expo or the like?).

The integration of MAR-1, Ra'ad and C-802 (possibly along with LS-6, as demonstrated with CAC test flights) will dramatically enhance JF-17's strike capability. I assume MAR-1 and Ra'ad integration was done by PAC themselves at PAF's request rather than CAC, which is a good foresighted plan. I wish PLAAF would go ahead and integrate J-10 with the various targeting pods and wide plethora of PGMs available, but I suppose having a fleet of dedicated strikers they can be forgiven somewhat.

Also it's a nice picture of JF-17 firing Ra'ad. I wonder if the pictures of JF-17 carrying SD-10s on wingtip, and MAR-1, and the ECM pod, are PSes or not. Something about them don't look right.

definitely PSes, all three pictures

about the conformal fuel tank, there is actually no PS on that, just vortex formation by LERX causing a bump illusion
 

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the dual racks have been seen on J-10 for a while now. And we've definitely seen pictures of J-10 with PGMs.

I think we've only ever seen J-10s with LT-2s, which, while better than nothing, doesn't quite have the striking power of cruise missiles, ARMs and GPS guided weapons. They really need to take advantage of the LT-3 and miniaturised LS-6 series.
 

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I think we've only ever seen J-10s with LT-2s, which, while better than nothing, doesn't quite have the striking power of cruise missiles, ARMs and GPS guided weapons. They really need to take advantage of the LT-3 and miniaturised LS-6 series.

Do you know what cruise missiles and ARMs do to J-10's range? What do you think the role of J-10 in PLAAF is? You should be a lot more concerned at how long it took them to put PL-12s on J-10s. All the new GPS PGMs are all developed with J-10s as one of the users. That's what the weapon designers said.
 
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