asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Clearly with dorsal spine and canopy
2 x JF17B for PAF 1 x JF17B for CAC for further testing
2 x JF17B for PAF 1 x JF17B for CAC for further testing
JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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Dizasta1
Senior Member
Is UAEAF C-17 being used to transport PAF Thunder? Wouldn't have thought they (UAE) would've been interested in buying Thunders. Especially after Pakistan flat-out rejected the Saudis in participating in the War against Yemen. It makes for a curious and interesting photo.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
No C17 just happens to be there not related to JF17
Asif is correct, the Truck Carrying the JF-17B is further away on service/taxi-way road then the parked C-17, Camera illusion makes it seems that truck is parked along side the C-17 , also the truck is following the white vehicle (follow me / escort ) left most side of the picture.
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Hi I’m sure gloabmaster must have been used previously more then once to bring jf17 related fuselage or any other items from china for Pakistan any learned please shed some more light on this
Thank you
Thank you
Dizasta1
Senior Member
Nope that would be the An-124 Ruslan operated by Volga-Dnepr Ltd. Most heavy (non-US/NATO) cargo is usually delivered via the An-124 Ruslan.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Apparently this unit is going to be used for flypast in March
Seems doubtful since there is still a lot of work to get that unit ready to fly
Unless the fuselage is all wired and ready to go
JF17B flanked by 2 x JF17 with IFR would be a good parade
Still 7 x Mirage squadrons and 5 x F7 squadrons need to be replaced
That’s well over 200 aircraft, if PAC build 16-18 units of Block II in 2018 we still will require another 200 aircraft
If we build 50 x Block III that is still a gap of 150 aircraft by 2021
I seriously hope a Block 4 is in development and 1-2 squadrons of F.C.-31 is purchased
Hopefully all Mirage and F7 are phased out in 10 years
Seems doubtful since there is still a lot of work to get that unit ready to fly
Unless the fuselage is all wired and ready to go
JF17B flanked by 2 x JF17 with IFR would be a good parade
Still 7 x Mirage squadrons and 5 x F7 squadrons need to be replaced
That’s well over 200 aircraft, if PAC build 16-18 units of Block II in 2018 we still will require another 200 aircraft
If we build 50 x Block III that is still a gap of 150 aircraft by 2021
I seriously hope a Block 4 is in development and 1-2 squadrons of F.C.-31 is purchased
Hopefully all Mirage and F7 are phased out in 10 years
timepass
Brigadier
PAF initial order of JF17 is 200 aircraft, at current PAF have inducted +100 ... still 100 to go (BLK - III). However, PAF may pursue for another 50, probably BLK - IV so the gap of 150 aircraft will be filled.
Based on the news around in the PAF circles, they will not pursue for BLK - IV, rather we will see the induction of J10C/Ds (60 - 80 aircraft, maybe 100) in near future.
FC - 31 induction is purely based on IAF acquisition of FAKFA...
Anybody has any idea on the Shooter squadron of F-7PG at Mianwali. It does not have a number. Anybody knows the number? If we include that then yes we have 5 F-7P/PG squadron.
I don't think we need to replace the F-7PG, these are relatively new aircraft with less hours, double delta wings, HUD and a good radar. Our main adversary IAF flies plenty of AC which this bird can shoot down
The only squadron in F series that should be replaced is the F-7P Sharp shooter squadron in Mianwali.
Regarding the mirages Three Squadron:
8th Haiders at Karachi
15th Cobra at Shorkot
22 Ghazis at Karachi
should be replaced as they are the oldest and without ROSE upgrade.
The 3 Upgraded ROSE Mirages are pretty good and should not be replaced in hurry, esp the 25th and 27th , they are really good precision strike platforms
That brings the total to 4 replaceable squadrons and the remaining 100 JF-17 should be able to replace them.
I don't think we need to replace the F-7PG, these are relatively new aircraft with less hours, double delta wings, HUD and a good radar. Our main adversary IAF flies plenty of AC which this bird can shoot down
The only squadron in F series that should be replaced is the F-7P Sharp shooter squadron in Mianwali.
Regarding the mirages Three Squadron:
8th Haiders at Karachi
15th Cobra at Shorkot
22 Ghazis at Karachi
should be replaced as they are the oldest and without ROSE upgrade.
The 3 Upgraded ROSE Mirages are pretty good and should not be replaced in hurry, esp the 25th and 27th , they are really good precision strike platforms
That brings the total to 4 replaceable squadrons and the remaining 100 JF-17 should be able to replace them.
timepass
Brigadier
Its being discussed earlier also, F7PGs (60) & Rose II/III Mirages (80 Aircraft - Cruise Missile capable) will not be retired in any near future...in stead they will move to as a dedicated PN air arm (under PAF??).
In next few years PN air arm going to be very capable & skies of Pakistan's SLoC will be well covered with the following;
3Sqdns - F7PGs
4Sqdns - Rose II/III Mirage (Cruise Missile capable)
2Sqdns - JF17Bs (BLK/III - (Cruise Missile capable)
ZDKs (4 AEW Aircraft)
P3Cs (12 MPA Aircraft)
ATRs (02 MPA Aircraft)
OTH, PAF will also be equipped with 4 generation aircraft in next few years;
14Sqdns - JF17s (BLK I/II/III)
05Sqdns - F16s (BLK 40/50MLU & 52)
05Sqdns - J10s (C/D??)
02Sqdns - FC31s (???)
KJ500 (08 AWACS Aircrafts)
Erieye (06 AWACS Aircrats)