JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

GreenestGDP

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Ooppss my bad.
Saudi F-15s is even better to measure JF-17 performance with.
Especially the latest cutting edge F-15 block.

IMHO, ... ...it is time for PAK AF to push the envelope by arranging the Free Style Dog Fighting Friendly, Transparent, and Public Competition with other nations.

Meanwhile, I personally hope PLAAF will do the same by having the Free Style Dog Fighting Friendly, Transparent, and Public Competition with German, UK, France air forces.

So the German, UK, and France pilots can witness firsthand and pass the words to the other side that can--not--be--named.
 

Deino

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I just read somewhere that the JF-17 will not fly at the Bahrain International Airshow 2016 !?

Can anyone confirm ?

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FORBIN

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Any infos for deals,

Sri Lanka for 8 sure now ? Myanmar 12/16 ? and Nigeria for 3 seems confirmed him.
 

Deino

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Any infos for deals,

Sri Lanka for 8 sure now ? Myanmar 12/16 ? and Nigeria for 3 seems confirmed him.

To admit ... I would say

Sri Lanka = nothing confirmed, even more officially denied !
Myanmar = nothing confirmed, but I would say can be accepted !
Nigeria = nothing confirmed, but very likely !
 

LonE_WolF

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To admit ... I would say

Sri Lanka = nothing confirmed, even more officially denied !
Myanmar = nothing confirmed, but I would say can be accepted !
Nigeria = nothing confirmed, but very likely !
actually myanmar is confirmed. they bought 16 @ $35 mil each.
there was some news aired on myanmar's tv channels as well.
 

taxiya

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So to conclude: NOTHING!
Nothing = No deal?
No deal <> nothing confirmed. Su-35 can be a good example to say both ways.
Nothing confirmed is just Nothing confirmed, no more, no less. It is plain English.
BTW, I sense excitement from your usage of capital letters, and won't bother to ask why, but I do wonder if you will be equally excited of failures of deals involving non-Chinese, non-Pakistani weaponry export.
(biting my tongue):rolleyes:
 

Domino

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credits to @henrik from another forum

The IFR and some additional sensors (?) on DSI as well as behind the canopy the round thing and the brown spots (?) on DSI under the wing

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Domino

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Has PAK AF ever conduct a Free Style Dog Fighting Friendly, Transparent, and Public Competition ( 1 on 1 , and 2 on 2 ) with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States Air Forces, and other nations that use F-16, F-18 or any other French, or Sweden Fighter ??

If not, why not ??

PAK AF use JF-17.
Turkey, Saudi Arabia Air Forces use F-16.

By Free Style Dog Fighting Competition, I mean ... ...

1) Lower the ( Minimum Allowable Speed to = 200 km/hr ),
2) Lower the ( Minimum Allowable Altitude to = 30 meter ),
3) Lower the ( Minimum Entanglement Distance between aircrafts to = 10 meter ),
4) Gun usage only ( registered electronically ), no Missile usage ( to prevent the other side from claiming and using the excuse that their missiles are inferior to PAK / PRC missiles ),
5) Arrange the Free Style Dog Fighting Friendly Competition in the Densely Cloudy Sky Environment.


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I think, the outcome of these Free Style Dog Fighting Friendly, Transparent, and Public Competition with Turkey and Saudi Arabia Air Forces pilots will go along way towards validating JF-17 true Combat performances.

Even better if Indian AF is willing to participate in the Free Style Dog Fighting Competition with their shiny LCA using the best avionics from the like of Israel.

It is time to WALK the TALK.
There are too many malicious and Divide--n--Conquer spins from the like of unreliable news outlets such as Reuters, Indian Express, Daily Mail, Guardian Idiotic Express, WSJ, CNN, and so on ... ...

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NOTE:
For those readers who are PAF pilots, ... ...
Please feel free to adjust the competition parameters to even lower figures, such as the Minimum Speed, Minimum Altitude, and Minimum Entanglement Distance to the physical limits of the JF-17.

Therefore, the other side participating aircrafts can not hide their physical inferiority behind those unreliable news outlets such as Reuters, Indian Express, Daily Mail, Guardian, WSJ, CNN, NYT, and so on ... ...

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Sorry Off Topic, ... ...
For those who still does not know, and keep asking this question in many forums ... ...

China AVIC has a Self Imposed Absolutely Strict Rule of NEVER, NEVER, NEVER export and sell any aircraft that use Sukhoi Su-27 derivative basic airframe, such as J-11A, J-11B, J-11D, J-15, J-16. period.
It does not matter if all the internal Airframe Structures and Avionics Components are 100% China AVIC design using Additive Manufacturing, and China home grown avionics components. --- This AVIC Self Imposed Absolutely Strict Rule is totally PRUDENT for China reputation as a Win--Win--Win nation, not as a Narrow Minded Zero--Sum--Destructive--Hegemonic nation.

Back to JF-17 topic.


Not related to your question But recently JF-17 did participated in Inter Armament competition b/w Different suqadrons within PAF in which F-16 (including Block 52) participated. Though the winner was a MLU F-16.
 
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