JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

[kwaigonegin]

This could be true if Pakistan buys engines only for PAF , but foreign customers would not like that . Would you buy an aircraft if you need to get spare parts from second or third hand ?
When purchasing warplanes small country needs to consider political implications . It won't do much good if in case of crisis your supplier decides it will not service your aircraft . Potential buyer of JF-17 would have to be in good terms with Pakistan , China and Russia .

Well since I was talking strictly from the standpoint of just equipping PAF that would be true like you said. As it stands right now I do not know PAF's plan for the JF-17 other than they like the plane and intend to get a whole lot of them for themselves.
I like to believe they want to concentrate on the avalability of the engines for their own airframes than they are about JF-17 exports. While no one is denying that export orders are important, they would still be of secondary priority to the continued procurement and assembly of PAF's own JF-17s.

Hope that make sense if I wasn't too clear before.

 

[Blackstone]

This could be true if Pakistan buys engines only for PAF , but foreign customers would not like that . Would you buy an aircraft if you need to get spare parts from second or third hand ?
When purchasing warplanes small country needs to consider political implications . It won't do much good if in case of crisis your supplier decides it will not service your aircraft . Potential buyer of JF-17 would have to be in good terms with Pakistan , China and Russia .

Better to pour resource into improving WS-13 than to depend on the Russians.

 

[nabil_05]

in an interview, former chairman PAC board stated that some western foreign powers who also happen to be major players in aircraft market are not so happy to see a potential competition by China and Pakistan, Russia has no concerns on this project as they are making easy money with RD-93, despite this, the sooner the WS-13 matures the better for jf-17.

Apparently, Swedes are not pleased to see a head-on competition to Gripen at all.

 

[Munir]

Apparently, Swedes are not pleased to see a head-on competition to Gripen at all.

I think one should more think in the direction of France, UK and USA. They have the asian african market share that is decreasing every year. Gripen is not sold to most nations due to the Swedish policies. And exact those nations are interested in JF17. The USA uses FMS or EDA as an instrument to get control over a nation. The French are not able to sell anything lately. And UK has not a great selling either.

 

[Lion]

This could be true if Pakistan buys engines only for PAF , but foreign customers would not like that . Would you buy an aircraft if you need to get spare parts from second or third hand ?
When purchasing warplanes small country needs to consider political implications . It won't do much good if in case of crisis your supplier decides it will not service your aircraft . Potential buyer of JF-17 would have to be in good terms with Pakistan , China and Russia .

Basically, China and Russia always mostly on the same foreign policy. I dont see any problem getting a weapons from
both of them. Gripen is a weapon of tech from swedes and US and it seems not stopping Romania, Thailand and South Africa from buying them too.

 

[asif iqbal]

It mention China only imports 100 RD-93 engine and no further up order. Basically, the most interesting thing is PAF wanted to directly negotiate with Russian over the import of RD 93 engine bypass China. Even the repair and overhaul of the engine is done in China and not Pakistan.

So far Russian only deals directly with China over RD-93 engine and Pakistan is not involved.

Well that's a load of rubbish since we have pictures of PAF doing all the maintainence and repair on RD-93

Pakistan has no contact with Russia over JF-17 no Russian is at Kamra it's exclusively a Sino-Pak joint venture

 

[Blackstone]

So when will China provide a WS-13x engine better than RD-93? JF-17 will not truly be a joint Chinese-Pakistan program until a solid and dependable (and better?) Chinese engine is found.

 

[kwaigonegin]

Well that's a load of rubbish since we have pictures of PAF doing all the maintainence and repair on RD-93

Pakistan has no contact with Russia over JF-17 no Russian is at Kamra it's exclusively a Sino-Pak joint venture

It's only a matter of time before the Taishan becomes available and reliable enough to be mass produced and put in production JF-17s so from that standpoint I think the PAF is betting on the right horse. There is really no logical need for PAF to depend or make any side deals with the Russians for RD-33 or what not but of course that is just me looking at it strictly from a layman's perspective. There may be other factors at play we're unaware of but again the original article itself may be like you said rubbish.

 

[nabil_05]

in the mean time...

 

[SteelBird]

in the mean time...

Is this a JF-17? By the way, the pilot needs a new helmet.