JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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Munir

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actually, I made a mistake here, I thought the other poster was saying 3m^2 @ 75 km is equivalent to 5m^2 @ 112 km, which would be virtually the same as 105 km. Should've checked my math.

Tphuang, I saw new antenna's on the latest PLAAF F7-G's. The antenna's are comparable as the JF17 antenna. Any idea whether these are used of link16 kinf of communications? Thanks.
 

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... and also the PAF's C-130 have the same one !
 

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Tphuang, I saw new antenna's on the latest PLAAF F7-G's. The antenna's are comparable as the JF17 antenna. Any idea whether these are used of link16 kinf of communications? Thanks.

I believe the ones of the latest J-7 series should be compatible with the other ones in PLAAF. It's hard for me to imagine JF-17s would not be datalinked with F-7PGs.
 

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just looked at the November's issue of Kanwa. It says that China and Russia just signed an agreement for delivering 57 RD-93 starting this year as part of the 100 RD-93s. This should be for the first batch of 42 JF-17s.
 

Munir

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just looked at the November's issue of Kanwa. It says that China and Russia just signed an agreement for delivering 57 RD-93 starting this year as part of the 100 RD-93s. This should be for the first batch of 42 JF-17s.

Sounds pretty much indeed the logical order for 50 planes and 7 reserves... But which version is ordered: the 10% more thrust version?
 

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Tphuang, I saw new antenna's on the latest PLAAF F7-G's. The antenna's are comparable as the JF17 antenna. Any idea whether these are used of link16 kinf of communications? Thanks.
according to AVIC,the UHF antenna double as antenna for frequency hopping radio and data link.
,few years ago,there's report that Tsinghua univerity successully developed encryption chip base ,in april issue of kanwa,China displayed several frequency hopping radio and encryption tools,among them high power radio ,with combination encryption and frequency hopping.similiar to link-16.
but the magazine do not provide more technical detail.
 

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Sounds pretty much indeed the logical order for 50 planes and 7 reserves... But which version is ordered: the 10% more thrust version?
it just said RD-93, so I assume the original

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I guess this just confirms what a lot of us know for a while, Azerbaijan is buying FC-1. I wonder how else will be.
China intends to supply FC-1 multipurpose fighters to Azerbaijan, Izvestia daily reads Nov.19 referring to the information that design was made with the assistance of Russian Aircraft Corporation “MiG”.

According to the source, the contract for FC-1 production was signed by Rosoboronexport with the approval of Russian Federal Service of Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC). Zimbabwe is also among the potential buyers, whereas Beijing intends to launch a serial manufacturing of the fighters in Pakistan.

Azeri Military Expert Uzeir Jafarov confirmed the information and added, “As far as I know, negotiations were held and our country intends to buy the hardware from China. Thus, I deem our defense ministry plans to purchase the equipment from the PRC.”

Meanwhile, the expert was puzzled with potential possibility of Chinese equipment purchase – which he considers is not widely used.

As per Chinese and Pakistani experts, up to 800 fighters might be sold. FSMTC seems to be comfortable about it, intending to supply China with 100 engines for FC-1, Izvestia says.

Rouslan Pukhov, Russian defense analyst and director of the Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, declared that without Russian engines there cannot be any major export of Chinese fighters. “It’s another matter that China might act in its own way. They can sign a contract with us assuring the engines are intended for them, however resell them further, thus causing a direct damage to us,” Pukhov underlined.
 

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it just said RD-93, so I assume the original

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I guess this just confirms what a lot of us know for a while, Azerbaijan is buying FC-1. I wonder how else will be.

This article is both fascinating and baffling at the same time

'Meanwhile, the expert was puzzled with potential possibility of Chinese equipment purchase – which he considers is not widely used.'

Yeeeeeeeeees, because nobody uses Chinese made military equipment... :coffee:
 

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This article is both fascinating and baffling at the same time

'Meanwhile, the expert was puzzled with potential possibility of Chinese equipment purchase – which he considers is not widely used.'

Yeeeeeeeeees, because nobody uses Chinese made military equipment... :coffee:

Besides, the report made it sounded like the Russian have a part in the design of FC-1, and that they should have a say as to which country China can export the fighter. What?
 

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Besides, the report made it sounded like the Russian have a part in the design of FC-1, and that they should have a say as to which country China can export the fighter. What?

I think it is quite clear FC-1 is all along just a private venture of Chengdu with PAF. PLAAF never intend to induct this plane and they don't even bother of it.

With J-10 previously being denied export, FC-1 is choosen to fill in the export market. Look at Dubai Air Show. Chengdu AVIC1 don't even bother to send a FC-1 plane for live plane demo while L-15 which can be a future advance trainer is in the pecking order. Being send to demonstrate its capability.
 
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