JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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maglomanic

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I guess adding the big LERXs on the wings paid off.

Chris,
I was hoping you would watch that clip closely and will have something about manuverability. Specially the end part where it goes vertical. Some of the turns were indeed quite noticable.

P.S that was at 500 ft according to the commentator.
 
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crobato

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The flying display was conservative compared to past film clips of the prototypes doing various aerobatics. Among previous displays, is one where the plane does a series of fast rolls.

In the first "official" flight of the first flying prototypes PT01, just barely a month after the plane left the production line, the plane was already doing rolls, flips, loops, fast turns and zoom climbs. Despite having an incomplete FBW, a new design doing aerobatics barely a month old is indicative of a plane that is born with very little flight problems and with all the right things to demonstrate such a high level of confidence. This is all ia sign of a thoroughbred, a plane born to fly and fly well.

The end part where the plane nearly goes vertical isn't really new. Every prototype since PT01 has done it. In fact, on its very first flight in front of officials. just as PT01 left the runaway, the plane pulled its nose for a steep nearly vertical climb before veering to the left.

The turn maneuvers in the recent flyover give me the impression the plane is capable of high angles of attack and has a good instantaneous turn rate. It does not seem to be underpowered doing all those near vertical climbs. I think the only thing I have yet to see the FC-1 does is to circumvent a circle in high speed, indicative of good sustained turn performance. We have seen an early J-10 video do just that.
 
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kursed

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maglomanic

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Thanks Chris.

I have also noticed that since Pt-01 days when it did rolls and flips Pt-04 and now this one never showed off and usually have been restricted to turns. Could be a sign of immature FBW?

Also, to me the vertical climb looked decent (not extraordinary though). But compared to F-16 flown by ACM who did fast fly by and pulled with rolls it was still kind of lackluster.

One more thing that i noticed was a bright spark once the plane is trying to level off horizontal with a turn to the right after the vertical climb. perhaps changing power from full burner to cruise throttle speed.
 

keysersoze

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Thanks Chris.

I have also noticed that since Pt-01 days when it did rolls and flips Pt-04 and now this one never showed off and usually have been restricted to turns. Could be a sign of immature FBW?

Also, to me the vertical climb looked decent (not extraordinary though). But compared to F-16 flown by ACM who did fast fly by and pulled with rolls it was still kind of lackluster.

One more thing that i noticed was a bright spark once the plane is trying to level off horizontal with a turn to the right after the vertical climb. perhaps changing power from full burner to cruise throttle speed.

The lack of flashy acrobatics maybe that they are simply playing it safe. A crash on it's first outing might be a disaster from a marketing perspective.
 

RavenWing278

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The lack of flashy acrobatics maybe that they are simply playing it safe. A crash on it's first outing might be a disaster from a marketing perspective.

they would have tested the platform over and over so a crash on its debut would be highly unlikely. i doubt the pakistanis and chinese would allow the plane to fly or be advertised without testing it fully and finding all of its bugs etc
 

crobato

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True, but still, the plane doing aerobatics just barely a month out from the production line is quite an achievement. This is compared to the first flights of many new planes that amount to flying cautiously over the air base in a stright line, and the fact that it sometimes takes many more months and even years to hone out the flight bugs.
 

crobato

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Thanks Chris.

I have also noticed that since Pt-01 days when it did rolls and flips Pt-04 and now this one never showed off and usually have been restricted to turns. Could be a sign of immature FBW?

Also, to me the vertical climb looked decent (not extraordinary though). But compared to F-16 flown by ACM who did fast fly by and pulled with rolls it was still kind of lackluster.

One more thing that i noticed was a bright spark once the plane is trying to level off horizontal with a turn to the right after the vertical climb. perhaps changing power from full burner to cruise throttle speed.

Of course, the F-16A still has the advantage of sheer brute power. I don't think the JF-17 can equal the F-16A on that department until it gets an engine of over 9,000kg thrust.
 

fishhead

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The flying display was conservative compared to past film clips of the prototypes doing various aerobatics. Among previous displays, is one where the plane does a series of fast rolls.

I agree. The puzzle to me is that I never see any LCA video showing that manuverability, even its bebut has been 5 years.

That left me to wonder how is its aerodynamic capability. There may be a big difference between paper and reality, considering its troublesome big delta wings.
 

kursed

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The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) aims to acquire 200-250 JF-17 Thunder (FC-1) fighter aircraft in place of the 150 originally envisaged, the country's air force...
23-Mar-2007


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