Jeju ferry sinking.

Equation

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Thanks for the updates gentlemen, it's just getting more sad and depressing to read the personal tragedy and lost of each news.:(
 

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JINDO, South Korea (AP) — South Korea's prime minister resigned Sunday over the government's handling of a ferry sinking that has left more than 300 people dead or missing and led to widespread shame, fury and finger-pointing, blaming "deep-rooted evils" in society for the tragedy.

South Korean executive power is largely concentrated in the president, so Chung Hong-won's resignation appears to be symbolic. Presidential spokesman Min Kyung-wook said President Park Geun-hye would accept the resignation, but did not say when Chung would leave office.

Chung's resignation comes amid rising indignation over claims by the victims' relatives that the government did not do enough to rescue or protect their loved ones. Most of the dead and missing were high school students on a school trip.

Officials have taken into custody all 15 people involved in navigating the ferry Sewol, which sank April 16. A prosecutor revealed that investigators were also looking into communications made as the ship sank between a crew member and the company that owns the ferry.

Chung was heckled by victims' relatives and his car was blocked when he visited a shelter on an island near the site of the sinking a week ago. On Sunday, he gave his reasoning for the resignation to reporters in Seoul.

"As I saw grieving families suffering with the pain of losing their loved ones and the sadness and resentment of the public, I thought I should take all responsibility as prime minister," Chung said. "There have been so many varieties of irregularities that have continued in every corner of our society and practices that have gone wrong. I hope these deep-rooted evils get corrected this time and this kind of accident never happens again."

Meanwhile, senior prosecutor Yang Jung-jin said that two helmsmen and two members of the steering crew who were detained Saturday had been formally arrested. Eleven other crew members, including the captain, had been arrested earlier.

Yang also said that a crew member called the ship's owner, Chonghaejin Marine Co. Ltd., as the ferry was listing, but declined to disclose whether the caller was the captain. Local media reported that the captain called for company approval of an evacuation. Prosecutors said they are analyzing the content of communications between the ship and the company.

The arrested crew members are accused of negligence and of failing to help passengers in need. Capt. Lee Joon-seok initially told passengers to stay in their rooms and took half an hour to issue an evacuation order, by which time the ship was tilting too severely for many people to get out.

Divers have recovered 188 bodies and 114 people are believed to be missing, though the government-wide emergency task force has said the ship's passengers list could be inaccurate. Only 174 people survived, including 22 of the 29 crew members.

The seven surviving crew members who have not been arrested or detained held non-marine jobs such as chef or steward, according to Yang.

Lee told reporters after his arrest that he withheld the evacuation order because rescuers had yet to arrive and he feared for passengers' safety in the cold, swift water. Crew members have also defended their actions.

Helmsman Oh Yong-seok, one of those arrested Saturday, has said he and several crew members did their best to save people. He said that he and four crew members worked from nearby boats to smash windows on the sinking ferry, dragging six passengers stuck in cabins to safety.

The Ministry of Oceans and Fisheries said it would soon change ferry systems so that passenger, vehicle and cargo information is processed electronically. There is not only uncertainty about how many people were on the Sewol, but a huge discrepancy regarding the amount of cargo it was carrying when it sank.

The ferry was carrying an estimated 3,608 tons of cargo, according to an executive of the company that loaded it. That far exceeds what the captain claimed in paperwork — 150 cars and 657 tons of other cargo, according to the coast guard — and is more than three times what an inspector who examined the vessel during a redesign last year said it could safely carry.

Yang, the prosecutor, said that the cause of the sinking could be due to excessive veering, improper stowage of cargo, modifications made to the ship and tidal influence. He said investigators would determine the cause by consulting with experts and using simulations.

Prosecutors have also seized documents from Jindo Vessel Traffic Services Center and Jeju Vessel Traffic Services Center, Yang said, and are analyzing communication messages, vessel tracking data and security camera recordings and others. The centers communicated with Sewol crew members as the ship listed and filled with water. The communications revealed confusion and indecision on the evacuation.

Despite bad weather, dozens of divers continued underwater searches for the missing on Sunday, said Ko Myung-seok, a spokesman for the emergency task force. One body was found, bringing the confirmed death toll to 188.

Officials said Saturday that divers had reached two large sleeping units in the ferry where many of the lost may lie dead. Large objects that toppled when the vessel tipped over and sank are believed to be keeping divers from reaching bodies in at least one of the two rooms.

Fifty students from Danwon High School in Ansan, a city near Seoul, were booked into one of the rooms. Danwon students make up more than 80 percent of the dead and missing; they had been on their way to the southern tourist island of Jeju.

"I just want to find my son's corpse. I want to see him one last time and hold a funeral for him," said Lim Hee-bin, as he exhaled cigarette smoke near his tent at Paengmok port in Jindo. "But the government search operation is too slow. It's total nonsense."

Lim said his son, Lim Hyun-jin, called him as the ship sank but the call was cut off. His son also sent him blurry and shaky photos showing his friends wearing orange life jackets and seated in a cabin.

"There are the last photos he sent me," Lim said. "These show they were in a dangerous situation."

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Lee reported from Mokpo, South Korea. Associated Press writers Jung-yoon Choi, Leon Drouin-Keith and Foster Klug in Seoul contributed to this report.
 

Rutim

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There are lots of bad feelings cumulated in South Korea right now. A tragedy which should unite - divides. An endless chain of blames, medias misinformation, PR stuff. Prime minister in the position that he should resign but he can't resign now as the situation still isn't even close to it's final conclusion... They even complain about the blue clothes that president Park wore on the occasion of Obama's visit... Corruption, lack of care for safety measures, even the case of the new submarine rescue ship which should be deliver to the navy in October last year yet it still haven't left the shipyard... 'Coffin business' as Koreans call it from politicians is starting to kick in... Only 88 students left in Danwon HS after accident...

Sad days on the southern part of the peninsula.
 
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Something is very wrong with either the media coverage or the mindset of the victims' families. All I hear are reports of the victims' families blaming the government for related corruption and a poor rescue effort when a private company overloaded the ship and would have also been involved in related corruption, and a private crew had behaved irresponsibly. Why aren't the victims' families also blaming the companies involved and the crew? If they are then why isn't that covered by the media? Fishy!
 

solarz

Brigadier
Something is very wrong with either the media coverage or the mindset of the victims' families. All I hear are reports of the victims' families blaming the government for related corruption and a poor rescue effort when a private company overloaded the ship and would have also been involved in related corruption, and a private crew had behaved irresponsibly. Why aren't the victims' families also blaming the companies involved and the crew? If they are then why isn't that covered by the media? Fishy!

It sounds a lot like the Chinese reaction: when in doubt, blame the government!
 

Preux

Junior Member
A question to the nautical members of the forum such as Popeye, what are your views regarding the conduct of the crew and the officers? I have my own views but they are very much a lubber's views.
 

bd popeye

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A question to the nautical members of the forum such as Popeye, what are your views regarding the conduct of the crew and the officers? I have my own views but they are very much a lubber's views.

The crew on the bridge in charge of the ship are cowards. They were much more concerned with their own safety than that of the passengers whose safety should have been paramount in the crew's thinking. They did not stand their duty. They took too long to make decisions especially the captain. They abandoned their post.

Their actions were despicable.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
I think it's the captain's fault for putting a rookie third mate at the helm in bad weather and at night. You mean to tell me he couldn't do it himself when he's pretty close to his destination? Sound like laziness and negligence to me.:mad:
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Again we're seeing the problem noted with the 777 crash at San Francisco Airport where the junior crew did not dare to question a senior officer. You have all these passengers obeying the announcements over the intercom to their deaths to stay in their cabins. Reports have it the boat capsized really fast so it may have not mattered much but most likely more lives would've been saved.
 

getready

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Again we're seeing the problem noted with the 777 crash at San Francisco Airport where the junior crew did not dare to question a senior officer. You have all these passengers obeying the announcements over the intercom to their deaths to stay in their cabins. Reports have it the boat capsized really fast so it may have not mattered much but most likely more lives would've been saved.

It took about three hours so there was plenty time. But the captain argued he was afraid the waves would sweep the passengers away if he ordered evacuation and water was too cold. And he said the angle was too steep to use lifeboats.
 
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