Japan spots Chinese Warships

vincelee

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just a clarification to IDont, UK is out of the Horizon project because of radar disputes with France/Italy. They are going for SAMPAR instead of EMPAR.
 

Jeff Head

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bd popeye said:
I tried that. I can't se that page.

Here's the pic of how the Japanese DDH will look. I hosted it myself:

jmsdf-ddh.jpg
 

IDonT

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vincelee said:
just a clarification to IDont, UK is out of the Horizon project because of radar disputes with France/Italy. They are going for SAMPAR instead of EMPAR.


thanks for the heads up, I meant Type 45 destroyers.
 

bd popeye

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That Japanese DDH looks interesting. Thanks for posting that picture Jeff. I will have to look it up on line for more information.

The PLAN should be building 6-8 of these type ships. But probaly in the 20,000 ton range.

Now did they call it a DDH because some politicans in Japan did not want to call it a CV or LPH? I think the Japanese consitution limits their naval capality.

That CWIS mounted on the bow looks out of place.
 

Jeff Head

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bd popeye said:
That CWIS mounted on the bow looks out of place.

Well, if they keep the CIWS there on the bow there they surely are not planning any STOLs, only VTOL. But the JSF can handle that too. We shall see. Clearly the DDH designator is a political/legal issue. The thing is clearly a VTOL carrier, either purely helo, or perhaps VTOL fighters at some point.
 

MIGleader

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bd popeye said:
That Japanese DDH looks interesting. Thanks for posting that picture Jeff. I will have to look it up on line for more information.

The PLAN should be building 6-8 of these type ships. But probaly in the 20,000 ton range.

Now did they call it a DDH because some politicans in Japan did not want to call it a CV or LPH? I think the Japanese consitution limits their naval capality.

That CWIS mounted on the bow looks out of place.

DDH=lph
heavy aircraft carrying cruser=aircraft carrier
pocket battleship=battlecrusier
all political reasons.

the forward mounted ciws is for politics too, so no onw will think they plan to operate aircraft.
 

Gollevainen

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well if the term LPH comes from 'landing platform helicopters', i wouldnt call DDH as LPH. To my knowlidge, its purely ASW platform so Sea Controll ship migth be more accurate term...
 

bd popeye

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DDH=lph
heavy aircraft carrying cruser=aircraft carrier
pocket battleship=battlecrusier
all political reasons.

the forward mounted ciws is for politics too, so no onw will think they plan to operate aircraft

I agree with you about 99%. I'm not sure why that CWIS is mounted that way. It is just a drawing afterall. But MIGleader you could be right.

Any real pics of the construction of those ships like the S.Korean LPX? I have to start using Google instead of Yahoo. I'm missing a lot!
 

Jeff Head

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Gollevainen said:
well if the term LPH comes from 'landing platform helicopters', i wouldnt call DDH as LPH. To my knowlidge, its purely ASW platform so Sea Controll ship migth be more accurate term...

I believe DDH was the term to satisfy the Japanese politicians. The JMSDF already has four DDH's and these are billed as the replacement for two of them...but here is what the current DDH looks like:

dd-143-DN-ST-87-09121.jpg


Compared to the new proposal:

ddh-new_091l.gif
 
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