Hehehe...that testing/cross decking we saw aboard the Hyuga and the Ise last year and this year wasn't for nothing!
They clearly liked what they saw!
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They clearly liked what they saw!
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
AAV or AAV7A1 is a Amphibious tracked Armored Personnel carrier it's a APC because it is armed normally with a M2 .50 Cal MG and a MK19 40mm Automatic grenade launcher in the same turret used by the The M1117 Guardian Armored Security Vehicle. It has been conceptualized and tested with a 30mm cannon making a IFV ( see the image I posted) but it's not used like that. it can Cram in 21 Infantrymen with a 3 man crew currently it uses a suspension and track based on the American Bradley IFV. Other users in the Region include the South Korean Marines, Philippine Marine Corps, Royal Thai Marine corps, the Indonesian Marine Corps, Republic of China ( Taiwan) Marine corps and the USMC. it's fairly popular used across the world and likely to keep in service till the 2040's. the Japanese Ground and Maritime Self Defence force is looking to buy 52. a USMC MEU normally has 15 AAV's along with 7-16 LAV's and 4 M1A1 SEP. The Japanese numbers may seem large therefore but numerically it about the same as Taiwan (54) and less then Korea ( 164). the most likely unit for them being the Western Army Infantry Regiment with 680 members meaning that the whole unit would only need about 33 vehicle there seems the possibility of a second maritime unit at a later date it's likely some of these are being order for spare parts.
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Skywatcher
Captain
Well, it's not like Tokyo could buy new amphibious AFVs from anyone else in the world (at least politically).
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Dedicated Amphibious Armored transport, no there are only three nations on earth right now who build dedicated Amphibious Armored APC's and IFV's The US, Russia and the PRC.
but Japan have licensed any number of designs from around the world. they are in good standing with a large number of European nations. the French, Germans, Swiss, British and Israelis. They already have a production licence for the Piranha IV wheeled IFV, manufacture under licence a number of foreign small arms and weapons. the gun on there type 90 tank is a licensed German 120mm L44 produced in Japan. they have Bushmaster Protected Mobility Vehicle out of Australia
but Japan have licensed any number of designs from around the world. they are in good standing with a large number of European nations. the French, Germans, Swiss, British and Israelis. They already have a production licence for the Piranha IV wheeled IFV, manufacture under licence a number of foreign small arms and weapons. the gun on there type 90 tank is a licensed German 120mm L44 produced in Japan. they have Bushmaster Protected Mobility Vehicle out of Australia
Skywatcher
Captain
They could also try their hand at building their own. Might be a pretty good export prospect, depending on its performance and cost.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
That is a option and they have a lot of experience at building there own Armored vehicles. At the Moment there looking more to AAV because it's a known quantity and they are more or less at Square one in terms of Expeditionary amphibious assault. getting AAV under there feet gives them something to learn from and then use to start their own. but given the price of doing such partnering and jointing a design would be there best option as I see it. Remember the Japanese actually don't need all that many unless they want to then extend it across there force to replace another vehicle in their service, but they seem to have it fairly well covered. The US might make a great partner if the Japanese did want to though as the USMC is already in the market for a eventual replacement of it's AAV's and it's likely a few others might just be willing to buy in to.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
You could go cheap (sorry thinking 3rd world again) and modify existing M-113s into “Arisgator”. They is a modification package for the M-113 by ARIS SpA (Applicazioni Rielaborazionti Imianti Speciali)
[video=youtube;O2_HqVNWPtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O2_HqVNWPtI[/video]
I will now get back to bottling my Malbec
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
They could if they had M113s. M113 is actual older then AAV, but the Japanese designed there own APC the Type 73, which may not be compatible. The US is retiring its M113s.
Also another factor on AAVs side is she can take sea states well outside of the norm for a converted APC or most wheeled APCs. Most APC swimming require calm seas AAV don't care.
Also another factor on AAVs side is she can take sea states well outside of the norm for a converted APC or most wheeled APCs. Most APC swimming require calm seas AAV don't care.
SamuraiBlue
Captain
My question is which ship they are going to transport the AAVs to the frontline how are they going to launch it from the ship once there?
Can they jump off say the deck of the Hyuga or Osumi?
Can they jump off say the deck of the Hyuga or Osumi?