J-XX Fighter Aircraft
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BrotherofSnake
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The F-117 borrowed cockpit equipment from the F-16.
The F-117 borrowed cockpit equipment from the F-16.
Chairman Hu
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borrow more tech of course
I cant believe that CAC is just working on the naval ver of the J-10, what a rip off, I wish China can clear her head and realize that 2 groups at one project is better than onE!
borrow more tech of course
I cant believe that CAC is just working on the naval ver of the J-10, what a rip off, I wish China can clear her head and realize that 2 groups at one project is better than onE!
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I don't like the idea of using the J-10 to compete. Fighters with intakes below are a lot less stealthier than other types of fighter. The radio waves will just enter, bounce back out, get reflected by the nose and goes back to the ground.
The J-10 isn't going to use the AL-31 forever, they got a new engine coming.
As for designing stealthy fighters, it's easier to give the stealth than to give the fighter. The F-22 was designed with straight sides, which should not be a hard thing compared to giving a manuverable fighter...........
I don't like the idea of using the J-10 to compete. Fighters with intakes below are a lot less stealthier than other types of fighter. The radio waves will just enter, bounce back out, get reflected by the nose and goes back to the ground.
The J-10 isn't going to use the AL-31 forever, they got a new engine coming.
As for designing stealthy fighters, it's easier to give the stealth than to give the fighter. The F-22 was designed with straight sides, which should not be a hard thing compared to giving a manuverable fighter...........
MIGleader
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maybe china will surprise us with a new design. those pics of i.44 and f-22 rip offs get boring.well, hope fully china can also fit dsi intakes on the j-10 to make it a bit more stelthy.
since th i.44 and f-22 were bith great designs, i dont see whats wrong with taking parts from them. china is developing the j-xx a part at a time. look at the sd-10, al-41, airfram studies...
maybe china will surprise us with a new design. those pics of i.44 and f-22 rip offs get boring.well, hope fully china can also fit dsi intakes on the j-10 to make it a bit more stelthy.
since th i.44 and f-22 were bith great designs, i dont see whats wrong with taking parts from them. china is developing the j-xx a part at a time. look at the sd-10, al-41, airfram studies...
Chairman Hu
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Re: J-xx
After 2 weeks, I made a new frame...
Its back is based on the YF-23 Black Widow 2 and the wings Delta style based on the MFI 1.44. The air-intake is going to be based on the YF-23 again and with carnads and 3-D TVCs.
Sumdud, you are completely right, even the Russians claim that their 1.44 isnt stealthy to a level compared to the Raptor, and the Russians are focusing on plasma stealth instead.
The intake might be a problem, in fact, the 1.44 style is impossible for a true stealth, this is why I chose the YF-23, from reports of testes, it is more flexible and better at a certain speed, the difference was the the Black Widow 2 and the Raptor were using 2 COMPLETELY different engines.
MiGLeader, the 1.44 and the Raptor ARE perfect for China to fiddle around with, the J-XX project should be handled the same way as China's 3rd generation tanks or how America did the ATF project, let CAC and SAC apporach different ways and you never know, one can be the conductor of the project and the other can be the sub-contractor of parts like... radar and hardpoints in the plane, HUD, MFD, blah, blah, blah
Even if China comes out with something less stealthy by frame, China always can joint develop plasma tech with Russia and that can give China an edge, I say instead of just frames and engines and missiles, China should look for oppotunities for J-XX enhancement and whatever possible to increase the plane for a low cost.
After 2 weeks, I made a new frame...
Its back is based on the YF-23 Black Widow 2 and the wings Delta style based on the MFI 1.44. The air-intake is going to be based on the YF-23 again and with carnads and 3-D TVCs.
Sumdud, you are completely right, even the Russians claim that their 1.44 isnt stealthy to a level compared to the Raptor, and the Russians are focusing on plasma stealth instead.
The intake might be a problem, in fact, the 1.44 style is impossible for a true stealth, this is why I chose the YF-23, from reports of testes, it is more flexible and better at a certain speed, the difference was the the Black Widow 2 and the Raptor were using 2 COMPLETELY different engines.
MiGLeader, the 1.44 and the Raptor ARE perfect for China to fiddle around with, the J-XX project should be handled the same way as China's 3rd generation tanks or how America did the ATF project, let CAC and SAC apporach different ways and you never know, one can be the conductor of the project and the other can be the sub-contractor of parts like... radar and hardpoints in the plane, HUD, MFD, blah, blah, blah
Even if China comes out with something less stealthy by frame, China always can joint develop plasma tech with Russia and that can give China an edge, I say instead of just frames and engines and missiles, China should look for oppotunities for J-XX enhancement and whatever possible to increase the plane for a low cost.
MIGleader
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chiona should order some mig-1.44;s for service, but their primary roll is testing. actully, the russians claim the mig 1.44 is stealthier than the f-22(exagerate, it has to at most be equal), has better performance(possibly exagerated), and has better manuverability(very true). the mig-1.44 uses special polymers in its construction that absorb radar, and is coated in ram. it also makes good use of curve stealth shaping ans heat reduction on the 3-d al-41s. it also has internal weapons bays and a failry advanced radar. seems great for taking on a rapter. its the su-47 berkut thats actually not so stealthy, althoug it does have superb manuverability.
chiona should order some mig-1.44;s for service, but their primary roll is testing. actully, the russians claim the mig 1.44 is stealthier than the f-22(exagerate, it has to at most be equal), has better performance(possibly exagerated), and has better manuverability(very true). the mig-1.44 uses special polymers in its construction that absorb radar, and is coated in ram. it also makes good use of curve stealth shaping ans heat reduction on the 3-d al-41s. it also has internal weapons bays and a failry advanced radar. seems great for taking on a rapter. its the su-47 berkut thats actually not so stealthy, althoug it does have superb manuverability.
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