J-35 carrier fighter (PLAN) thread

Schwerter_

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This is incorrect. The NATF program was required to be based off the ATF birds. The Navy was required to use an aircraft based on the winning proposal. Lockheed won and the Navy shut it down. Probably would have for Northrop, too.



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That's the art work I recall being released back in the early 90s when Lockheed had won.

The reuse of the program was, iirc, directed by congress. It's not what the Navy wanted.
Thanks for pointing my mistakes out! Also IIRC for the longest time people weren't even sure if this design actually existed past the concept art stage (too little information), it was only after someone put a model of the design made by Lockheed onto Ebay that people were sure that it was actually a thing.

Here are some pictures of said model
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.......alright I should stop dragging this thread off topic
 
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Team Blue

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No comparisons in the David Axe piece that are too wildly verging on "Chinese copycat F-35"...I guess you can call that personal growth?
FACT: The first human flight took place in Versailles in 1783, with a human notably in the air rather than on the ground.

FACT: The J-35 also uses technology that places a human in the air instead of remaining on the ground.

CONCLUSION: The J-35 is a copycat of France's 1783 hot air balloon.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
 

steel21

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Thanks for pointing my mistakes out! Also IIRC for the longest time people weren't even sure if this design actually existed past the concept art stage (too little information), it was only after someone put a model of the design made by Lockheed onto Ebay that people were sure that it was actually a thing.

Here are some pictures of said model
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Man, USN really dig those swing-wing designs, must be a real advantage in carrier approaches.
 

Richard Santos

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An requirement for the heavy naval fighter was long loiter time over the fleet to provide sustained fleet combat air patrol. The swing wing was for that purpose.

For a while the USN actually contemplating building a slow, dedicated fleet defence fighter with glider like fixed straight wings for the purpose of loitering for a long time over the fleet and engaging any incoming air threats with very long range air to air missiles. It was the Douglas Missileer. It would obvious have zero dog fighting capability and can’t really do strike escort.

Later the fact that such an aircraft would have been useless for anything else got it canceled. But the need for something that can circle the fleet slowly for a long time and engage incoming targets at stand off distances with long range missiles remained, hence F-14, and its intended successor.
 
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anzha

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Later the fact that such an aircraft would have been useless for anything else got it canceled. But the need for something that can circle the fleet slowly for a long time and engage incoming targets at stand off distances with long range missiles remained, hence F-14, and its intended successor.

I do believe we are off-topic here and have been asked to stay ON topic. There is a thread for what-if fighters.
 
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