J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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Following that "sketch" and descriptions it could be similar to this CG !??

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Following that "sketch" and descriptions it could be similar to this CG !??

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Holy cow, those CG's are like flipping identical to the Plan view of the pic 70092 gave! :eek:

I wonder if the artists who made them were the same, or perhaps the CG artist based his drawing on the plan view... Either way, if this is what the J-XX will look like then I take what I said back - it looks great!
 

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the reason why China declined to cooperate with Russia was because WS-15 went smoothly, that's the biggest concern they should have.

WS-15 may be 20,000lbs. thrust engine,same class as F-404 engine.it is likely that twin engine J-10 power two Ws-15 may be in the drawing board
 

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WS-15 may be 20,000lbs. thrust engine,same class as F-404 engine.it is likely that twin engine J-10 power two Ws-15 may be in the drawing board
^ But for argument's sake I think we all assume the WS-15 to be the T/W: 10.1 engine, just to keep things nice and flowing ya know? ;)
 

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WS-15 may be 20,000lbs. thrust engine,same class as F-404 engine.it is likely that twin engine J-10 power two Ws-15 may be in the drawing board

WS-15 suppose to be 30,000lbs thrust.. To be used to power future JXX and giving it super cruise capabilities.
 

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without going into the credibility of the last picture, i do have question about the design shown in it. Canards seem to close to the wings and yet they're on the same plane as the wings. We haven't seen that in a succesful fresh design. Even eurofighter's canards, which are unusual in the sense that they're quite far apart from the wings, are positioned slightly higher than the wings. And, of course, all the other (originally concieved with) canard planes have them close coupled with the wings and positioned higher up. Various demonstrators made out of f15 or f4 haven't done much to popularize canard and wing on the same level design, as well as su33 or mki, which have them as an additional surface.
 

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without going into the credibility of the last picture, i do have question about the design shown in it. Canards seem to close to the wings and yet they're on the same plane as the wings. We haven't seen that in a succesful fresh design. Even eurofighter's canards, which are unusual in the sense that they're quite far apart from the wings, are positioned slightly higher than the wings. And, of course, all the other (originally concieved with) canard planes have them close coupled with the wings and positioned higher up. Various demonstrators made out of f15 or f4 haven't done much to popularize canard and wing on the same level design, as well as su33 or mki, which have them as an additional surface.
It is possible, as there were proposals in which the gains from the incorporation of LERX justify the loss of efficiency in the canards by having them on the same plane as the wings.
 

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WS-15 suppose to be 30,000lbs thrust.. To be used to power future JXX and giving it super cruise capabilities.

China been seeking GE-F-404 since the late 70's,the US instead offer GE J-65
in the end,China choose R & R Spey engine. itself a very old engine.
a 20,000lbs. class thrust engine could reengine JH-7 ,F-8 and future twin engine J-10.
 

Londo Molari

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Personally I find it hard to believe that the plane will have canards, I think if canards made sense then the Russians or Americans would have used them.

The Russian T-50 has canards. It has just extended the wings so they touch the canards. They are still there.

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Canards + thrust vectoring = potential for unlimited angle of attack
 
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