J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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Bltizo said:

Found a few new photos of possible Chinese J-XX's from this Chinese blog thing:

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Can anyone translate the Chinese? Or better, has anybody seen this pictures on CCTV (you can see the CCTV 7 logo in the corner) and heard what dialogue these pictures were shown with?
(Hope these haven't been posted before, if they have, whoops)

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Blog entry seems somewhat bogus. My Chinese isn't very good and I'll have to spend more time on it to figure out specifics, but just hopping to the section on the Turbofan, the entry claims it will use the AL-41, and then claims the AL-41 will have a thrust of 196 KN. Can't rely on the accuracy of my reading of course, but this information doesn't seem to correlate well with what we already know about the project.

On a side note, it does mention a name for the J-14, which roughly translates to "Hawk" or "Falcon" (maybe "Bird of Prey?"). That only seems to add to the suspicion IMO.

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latenlazy said:

Blog entry seems somewhat bogus. My Chinese isn't very good and I'll have to spend more time on it to figure out specifics, but just hopping to the section on the Turbofan, the entry claims it will use the AL-41, and then claims the AL-41 will have a thrust of 196 KN. Can't rely on the accuracy of my reading of course, but this information doesn't seem to correlate well with what we already know about the project.

On a side note, the blog refers to the J-14 as the "raptor", which only adds to my suspicion.

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Re: New Generation Fighter

Bltizo said:

Found a few new photos of possible Chinese J-XX's from this Chinese blog thing:

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Can anyone translate the Chinese? Or better, has anybody seen this pictures on CCTV (you can see the CCTV 7 logo in the corner) and heard what dialogue these pictures were shown with?
(Hope these haven't been posted before, if they have, whoops)

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99.9% of these blogs are posted by people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about

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And..I agree with you to a point. Many military & political blogs are nothing but speculation.

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We can generally get a feeling of the post by reading the comments after it.
In this case, the pictures are taken from a CCTV-7 claim that US is making a miniaturized F-22 because the F-35 is a disappointment.

Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with China's 4th gen, and I doubt the legitimacy of CCTV-7's claim anyways, I don't think US will ever go with a canard design.

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The article is bogus, but the pictures taken from CCTV might mean something.

The pictures suggest that China built a model ("miniature") F-22 for RCS testing. The aircraft is intended to be J-XX, not some US fighter.

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I been reading Chinese military blogger,most of article should be treated like grain of sand.most of them knew absolute nothing,fiction treated as fact,rumor past as truth..
most of them never has access to western military or magazine such aviation week and technology,IDR,military technology....etc

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challenge said:

I been reading Chinese military blogger,most of article should be treated like grain of sand.most of them knew absolute nothing,fiction treated as fact,rumor past as truth..
most of them never has access to western military or magazine such aviation week and technology,IDR,military technology....etc

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Yeah, we all know how bs most bloggers are, no need to make them feel bad about themselves lol.
The emphasis on this case was to be put on the pictures posted on the blog, shown with a CCTV logo, and seeing as it's state controlled, it's a bit strange to see a model or whatever it is of a plane which doesn't exist yet from a country who's censor on media is quite strong. Which leads to the question, what was the news piece they were presenting when the pictures were shown?
For all I know, it could have been a documentary about fighters in general and a picture of some random plane just pops up in the middle of it.

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should be treated like grain of sand.

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Taken with a grain of salt?

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Who The People & What The Strategies Will Influence Chinese Military & Air Force?

I found China is quite open to get all the information that you need to address the transparency issues. The problem is that a lot of people, who wanted the so-called openness, don't know Chinese at all.