J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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That thought occurred to me too. In this case this would likely be the engine nozzles and tapered rear fuselage to a degree. But it will only lower the rcs from the sides. Frontal and rear will likely increase marginally.
But in most cases, less exposed surfaces=smaller
Personally I'm still hoping for stealthier nozzles

I think that F-22 style 2-d nozzles are out of question. Adds too much weight to the plane and reduces thrust. Americans can afford the luxury since they've got the best engines in the world.
 

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I think that F-22 style 2-d nozzles are out of question. Adds too much weight to the plane and reduces thrust. Americans can afford the luxury since they've got the best engines in the world.

Hmm and what about 3D -- we've all heard how j-20 will have Russian style nozzles, wouldn't that be both more complicated and perhaps heavier than 2d?
I suppose the thrust decrease from rectangular nozzles would be too great :/
 

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Frontal and rear will likely increase marginally.
But in most cases, less exposed surfaces=smaller

That's hard to say. Unless someone repeats what Airpower Australia did, and do some simulation to compare the configuration with and the configuration without ventral fins, there's no way to know.
 

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I think that F-22 style 2-d nozzles are out of question. Adds too much weight to the plane and reduces thrust. Americans can afford the luxury since they've got the best engines in the world.

I have said that 2D nozzles won't be found on the aircraft about a year before the J-20 came out. People didn't want to believe me back then and argued with me how J-20 would use 2-D nozzles.
 

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I have said that 2D nozzles won't be found on the aircraft about a year before the J-20 came out. People didn't want to believe me back then and argued with me how J-20 would use 2-D nozzles.

What kind of nozzles do you think the final production model would end up using?
 

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I have said that 2D nozzles won't be found on the aircraft about a year before the J-20 came out. People didn't want to believe me back then and argued with me how J-20 would use 2-D nozzles.

Was that based on per word insider info or your own logical deduction?
 

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A photo from the blog of peishens, a big shrimp from CJDBY who was recently exposed as a military journalist working for Global Times and the South China Weekend. Some of his articles were also published on the People's Daily:

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