J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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Deino

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For me actually surprising ....
 

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kyanges

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Does it really matter? The more important story is that they've moved onto avionics testing. The bottom line is where we are on the tests, not how many airframes there are.

I think it matters for the reasons plawolf posted. I agree with you that it isn't about how many airframes there are, but as he said, this latest development sheds light on what's being tested in which airframe, which gives insight, however limited, into how the program is being run, maybe even what stage it's at, and that makes it matter.
 

latenlazy

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I think it matters for the reasons plawolf posted. I agree with you that it isn't about how many airframes there are, but as he said, this latest development sheds light on what's being tested in which airframe, which gives insight, however limited, into how the program is being run, maybe even what stage it's at, and that makes it matter.
I meant the idea that more airframes=more progress. Otherwise completely agree.
 

Air Force Brat

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This might be disappointing a bit.

Not really, its nice to know that at least one of our girls is still at Chengdu, and we are still able to see her on occasion, it does I think bear witness that things may have slowed down a bit, much like our own F-35, where lrip has been scaled back to accomodate the very normal detail work of bringing an entirely new aircraft to developmental maturity. There are myriad details and tweaks that must be not only made, but integrated into the aircraft in a way that does not compromise what you have already accomplished, which in the case of the J-20 is a great deal, but you will recall that I have previously forcast such a ramping down for these chores.
 

Air Force Brat

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It'll still probably be a 3D TVC...

I hope you're right, and it will reinforce what I have said all along, but as I have stated elsewhere the supermanueverability qual to be fifth gen is now up in the air? We're not going to see the J-20 standing on its tail at airshows without TVC, ain't gonna happen. US has given the F-35 outstanding manueverability but left off the TVC, I wouldn't be surprised to see the J-20 go into serial production without it either, the Eng may be right after all as he is about lots of other stuff. In my opinion the J-20 objectives as of today are stealthy, fast, with the ability to supercruise, outstanding manueverability, advanced avionics and weapons systems. The F-22 has issues with life support because its capability to manuever is beyond that of many pilots to tolerate, and no I don't think the answer is UAV, I do think that is why many of the newer aircraft are where they are today. Its also the main reason that Sino Air is NOT enamored with TVC, otherwise we would have already seen it on one of the Flanker variants?
 
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