J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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while waiting for bd popeye to reopen Shenyang new generation fighter thread

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plawolf said:
It's got canards as well, and is allegedly from CAC instead of SAC.

Looks like a mini-J20 like what the F35 is to the F22. Maybe CAC wants a piece of the carrier 5th gen pie as well.

Saying that, as much as I like CAC over SAC, I do hope that CAC doesn't get both 5th gen contracts like LockMart did with the F22 and F35. A little healthy competition helps to keep everyone on top of their game, and I'd like to hope SAC isn't quite as useless as what the rumors might suggest.
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Amen to that brother, I really like the F-60, and I don't think SAC is anywhere near useless, they just seem more likely to stick to the standard format, cause it works, if it ain't broke don't "fix it".
 
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few month after official release of J-20, Chinese official acknowledge smaller,single engine version of J-20 call J-21.like J-20 it has forward canard.
 
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Engineer said:
That is a demonstrator for Swedish Generic Future Fighter.


The fact that Sweden uses the canard configuration once again shows the claim about canards being detrimental to stealth is nothing but a myth.
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A flying scale model proves nothing of the sort, and distant coupled active canards for primary pitch control will increase your RCS from the frontal aspect. The only true measure of RCS is the Radar return from your full scale prototype, anything else is conjecture. Its quite doubtfull that any one who doesn't need to know has any idea of the J-20s RCS outside of Chengdu and the PLAAF, and the Swedish model bears a mild resemblance to the planform of the YF-23, with the addition of the canards. I will say that the model flys fairly well, without the usual jerking and jinking of a small scale radio controlled models. This model would however make quicker pitch transitions due to the center of lift being located further forward near the center of gravity, and does demonstrate the principle of mass centralization, which does lend itself to relaxed pitch stability.
 
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Air Force Brat said:
A flying scale model proves nothing of the sort, and distant coupled active canards for primary pitch control will increase your RCS from the frontal aspect. The only true measure of RCS is the Radar return from your full scale prototype, anything else is conjecture. Its quite doubtfull that any one who doesn't need to know has any idea of the J-20s RCS outside of Chengdu and the PLAAF, and the Swedish model bears a mild resemblance to the planform of the YF-23, with the addition of the canards. I will say that the model flys fairly well, without the usual jerking and jinking of a small scale radio controlled models. This model would however make quicker pitch transitions due to the center of lift being located further forward near the center of gravity, and does demonstrate the principle of mass centralization, which does lend itself to relaxed pitch stability.
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If it were intended as a serious stealth design, why would they stick canards on the thing if they didn't think they could make it stealthy?
 
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