J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

Could it be the connection between the cockpit and the fuselage?

Air Force Brat said:

Roger that hmmwv, there so much stuff below to break he's gotta be carefull, he's doin some crankin and bankin, prolly in burner pretty good, if he is maintaing altitude, it takes a lot of power, thats why the leading edge flaps are deployed and the canard is angled downward to prevent overpitching the aircraft, the last thing you want to do is depart the aircraft. When you bring a fighter aircraft in to land, you customarily do a 360 overhead, where you fly down the runway heading and do the overhead break, and honk her right on around at a very low power setting in a steep bank with fairly heavy g, that bleeds off speed so you can lower the flaps and pop the gear. Then you bring the power back up to maintain a safe descent rate, as you have greatly reduced your available energy and increased your drag, the ideal approach speed is calculated at a given fuel/payload, and from there you gradually bleed off airspeed and energy as you fly down final. If you're fast you risk an overshoot, if you're slow you risk a high sink arrival, or worse landing short, if you're on the mark the nose is higher than the mains, the main gear rolls on and you hold the nose off for aerodynamic braking, and Bob's your uncle! Yes you know your old bud pretty well player.

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I see, on a side note what do you think it's the reason that J20 rarely deploys the air brake during landing, instead it uses the drag chute every time? With the all moving canard and tail, as well as the dedicated air brake you'd think it'll have no problem stopping on a 2,500m runway, no? The only logical reason is to create chute folding jobs

Also I'm curious why do you call the test pilot "tall man?" Colonel Li Gang isn't a particularly tall guy (5th from the left).

Regarding that strange "thing" behind the canopy: IMO it is not a realy bump but simply a panel which covers the hinging-mechanism, which was sled back for work on it. More interesting is that "yellow" stripe in front .... but actually I don#T know.

Deino

Deino said:

Regarding that strange "thing" behind the canopy: IMO it is not a realy bump but simply a panel which covers the hinging-mechanism, which was sled back for work on it. More interesting is that "yellow" stripe in front .... but actually I don#T know.

Deino

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I suppose we will tell whether that actually is a bump once we get more pictures. If all of them show the bump present, then it won't be a panel. If the bump is absent, then your theory will be proven correct.

Have any of the wall climbers caught a glimpse of the engines and whether that is different to 2001, yet?

Bltizo said:

I suppose we will tell whether that actually is a bump once we get more pictures. If all of them show the bump present, then it won't be a panel. If the bump is absent, then your theory will be proven correct.

Have any of the wall climbers caught a glimpse of the engines and whether that is different to 2001, yet?

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I think it is safe to say that 2000 was the static test-bed, 2001 is powered by painted AL-31F engines. I assume that 2002 will be powered by a standard WS-10; I do not believe that the WS-10G is ready...but what do I know?

Maybe 2003 or 2004 will have WS-10G.

Best solution, 2002 with one WS-10 and one WS-15 with 2D nozzle.

Lion said:

Best solution, 2002 with one WS-10 and one WS-15 with 2D nozzle.

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Best maybe ... but I think we should be realistc !

Centrist said:

I assume that 2002 will be powered by a standard WS-10;

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I think it will keep the painted AL-31F engines.

I do not believe that the WS-10G is ready...but what do I know?

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I do not believe that the WS-10G even exists.

Maybe 2003 or 2004 will have WS-10G.

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#2005 prototype with WS-15.

hmmwv said:

I see, on a side note what do you think it's the reason that J20 rarely deploys the air brake during landing, instead it uses the drag chute every time? With the all moving canard and tail, as well as the dedicated air brake you'd think it'll have no problem stopping on a 2,500m runway, no? The only logical reason is to create chute folding jobs

Also I'm curious why do you call the test pilot "tall man?" Colonel Li Gang isn't a particularly tall guy (5th from the left).View attachment 6353

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I'm fairly certain that there is likely more than I pilot, on one of the vids the pilot looked like a tall tom cruise type, so I'm just teasing, and kind of hopefull that somebody will say, those guys on sino d need straightened out, I think we'll let the tall man tell em whats what. The first Raptor demo driver, Max Moqua, prolly misspelling his last name hosted a program called "air combat", in which he narrated and interviewed pilots of both aircraft, one program was F-86 vs Mig 15, anyway he was a faithfull poster on a site called "Air Show Buzz", when one of the other forum members took him to task for not doing a real "cobra" and questioned the raptors ability, he stated that the Russian pilots departed their aircraft from controlled flight, that he would not be departing the Raptor at low altitude for an airshow due to the risk involved, and further that the "cobra while awsome to watch, had 0 tactical application and the demo he performed in the Raptor was primarily a tactical display. Having said that, I would love to hear what any of the J-20 drivers thought of the J-bird? Maybe the tall guy the second from the left in your pic, the second from the right looks like Jackie Chan?
Speed Brake, Hhhuuuummhhhh, thinking out loud, I "love the twin drogue chutes", prolly don't need them both, I am at a lose otherwise, they are cool and nostalgic, nuthins cooler than popin that chute on landing, then droppin it as you taxi back in, the airplane is likely very light, that may change in 2002 when we have radar etc, and I expect them to open up the flight envelope a bit, as I stated previously, we have not seen 2001 at extremely high alpha, nor have we heard any anecdotal reports of 2001 departing Chengdu an sonic booms associated with her test flights. Are there any vids with speed brakes? As I stated 2001 comes across the fence with plenty of airspeed, that will likely change if they deploy speed brakes on final? Great question though, maybe the engineer has an idea?

Should the Russian example be an indicator. For example they had built two more T-50 prototypes in the second year. Or did they rush into it?