J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

I didn’t aim that at a Chinese Aviation engineer. I highly doubt many would be members here.
I aimed that comment @plawolf a commenter on a American hosted forum. Who asked about why it was integrated into the canopy as opposed to separate.
Next although a large amount of radio spectrum is deflected not all is. This is known as an issue due to the F22 and JHMCS.
In order to integrate the JHMCS the cockpit has to be mapped electronically. However the stealth construction caused issues.
Yes the Tin Iridium coating in the cockpit will deflect some spectrums but not all. A frame can be constructed to reduce the reflection no doubt but less is sometimes more. F35 has different requirements pla on it due to its various types.

Pupu says there are definitely 60 J-20s already.

^Any info about the annual production rate?

Figaro said:

Pupu says there are definitely 60 J-20s already.
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he is wrong 99% of the time, a great part of his word is simply fanboy languages, again rumor suggested he is just working for a SAC subcontractor.

by the Q4 last year, we could have a fair accurate number of J-20 being 20 (in-service) + 4 in CAC factory with WS-10B

and rumor suggested only 4 additional J-20 had been produced till the April (Original quote was something like due to pandemic only average 1 J-20 per month in the first 4 month of 2020), thus mean a total 28

Therefore I will be super surprised to see the J-20 double its number in just 3-4 months, thus 10 j-20 per month, 120 annual, which means close to the F-35 production rate right now, how is that possible?

stannislas said:

he is wrong 99% of the time, a great part of his word is simply fanboy languages

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Pupu is a fanboy? This is just like a couple weeks ago when some member here called Pop3 a fanboy lmao. But I have to admit, this is the first time someone has called Pupu a fanboy .

stannislas said:

by the Q4 last year, we could have a fair accurate number of J-20 being 20 (in-service) + 4 in CAC factory with WS-10B

and rumor suggested only 4 additional J-20 had been produced till the April (Original quote was something like due to pandemic only average 1 J-20 per month in the first 4 month of 2020), thus mean a total 28

Therefore I will be super surprised to see the J-20 double its number in just 3-4 months, thus 10 j-20 per month, 120 annual, which means close to the F-35 production rate right now, how is that possible?

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Ok whose word should we take ... yours or that of one of the most credible Big Shrimps regarding PLAAF matters?

The correct answer is to just wait and see .

Figaro said:

Pupu is a fanboy? This is just like a couple weeks ago when some member here called Pop3 a fanboy lmao. But I have to admit, this is the first time someone has called Pupu a fanboy .

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here again, pupu is a fanboy "NOW", cjdby is mostly a fanboy site, most Chinese military sites are fanboy sites. Some informed sources sometimes disclosed something in these places, yes, but even the toilet is made by gold, a toilet is still a toilet

In terms of PUPU, he used to be informed and said something right, but that was nearly 10 years ago, in the past like 5 years at least, almost all his words are either wrong, delayed or simple speculations. Now I rather wait for people posted pictures on weibo

Figaro said:

Pupu is a fanboy? This is just like a couple weeks ago when some member here called Pop3 a fanboy lmao. But I have to admit, this is the first time someone has called Pupu a fanboy .

Ok whose word should we take ... yours or that of one of the most credible Big Shrimps regarding PLAAF matters?

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you don't need to believe me, but seriously, how long you haven't been closely follow-ups these "大神" in Chinese communities, if we recognized people as "大神" over his correctness on prediction and disclose information than he shouldn't be one for at least 5 years.

plus the number I quote "20 J-20 in service in 2019" is pretty much certain, which is 4 x dingxin, 8 x cangzhou and 8 x wuhu, tell me there is a fourth in china equipped with J-20. that means 40 additional J-20 in 1 to 1.5 years, from 20 in 2 years to 40 in one year, I seriously wish it would be true, but considering the odds, how likely it could be true?

stannislas said:

he is wrong 99% of the time, a great part of his word is simply fanboy languages, again rumor suggested he is just working for a SAC subcontractor.

by the Q4 last year, we could have a fair accurate number of J-20 being 20 (in-service) + 4 in CAC factory with WS-10B

and rumor suggested only 4 additional J-20 had been produced till the April (Original quote was something like due to pandemic only average 1 J-20 per month in the first 4 month of 2020), thus mean a total 28

Therefore I will be super surprised to see the J-20 double its number in just 3-4 months, thus 10 j-20 per month, 120 annual, which means close to the F-35 production rate right now, how is that possible?

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Where did you get your assessment of J-20 numbers from?

If you were counting the number of J-20s based on confirmed serials and the range of serials photographed, those numbers certainly provide a floor of J-20 numbers that we can be confident is a "minimum" number.

The problem is we don't know what the true number of J-20s are, beyond the serial numbers photographed, which is always the problem we face when trying to estimate aircraft numbers.

Bltizo said:

Where did you get your assessment of J-20 numbers from?

If you were counting the number of J-20s based on confirmed serials and the range of serials photographed, those numbers certainly provide a floor of J-20 numbers that we can be confident is a "minimum" number.

The problem is we don't know what the true number of J-20s are, beyond the serial numbers photographed, which is always the problem we face when trying to estimate aircraft numbers.

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I completely agree with what you said, in fact, I think after a certain point it's impossible to trace and count how many jets PLAAF has given their information disclosure policy.

BUT, at this moment, we still could estimate a number. We know Wuhu is the first frontline troop with J-20 from CCTV if my memory is correct. that means before other places got J-20, the total number of J-20 is known, which is 20. It's also confirmed by all those serials photographed.

Later we heard from "multiple" sources claim that "Fushun"? in NTC will be the 2nd to have J-20, but until now we still haven't seen any pictures of flying J-20 around that place, given how dense Chinese cities are and how close Fushun base to the surrounding cities, as such a high profile jet, it's very difficult to hide J-20 like this.

Moreover, we have some secondary evidence suggested that the four J-20 with WS-10B in yellow primer at CAC witness in Nov 2019 was still at CAC (at least around April for these newly released pictures).

Combine all these, we could logically estimate the number, but again, deep down, I seriously hope I'm wrong, for example instead of Fushun, the 2nd place to have J-20 is somewhere else.