I might be wrong, but didn't the US and Soviet's bring their top level aircraft to international airshows during the Cold War?
J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII
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I might be wrong, but didn't the US and Soviet's bring their top level aircraft to international airshows during the Cold War?
The Soviets only did so in the late stages of Gorbachev’s reign though. The fact that they sent top of line fighters like the Mig-29 surprised a lot of people at the Paris Airshow.
@伏尔戈星图 on Weibo claimed that Factory 132 (i.e. CAC) handed over 16 J-20s during the 2nd quarter of 2023, and managed to reach the target(?) around one week ahead of the end of June.
He also claimed that the eventual annual production rate of J-20 for 2023 should be around 55-60, which is 10 more than 2022.
In retrospect, like, seriously?? Isn't the annual production rate of the J-20 is expected to reach ~100 units this year?? Seeing the claims of a mere 55-60 is rather shocking, to-be-honest.
Besides, in that case - Speaking in terms of pilot resources across the PLAAF and PLANAF: All the remaining 200+ J-7s which are slated for retirement by the end of this year certainly didn't match with the expected rollout rate of new fighters from both CAC (J-20) and SAC (J-16) this year either...
Meanwhile, looking at LockMart with the annual production rate of the F-35 already passing 100 units for years now... man...
He also claimed that the eventual annual production rate of J-20 for 2023 should be around 55-60, which is 10 more than 2022.
In retrospect, like, seriously?? Isn't the annual production rate of the J-20 is expected to reach ~100 units this year?? Seeing the claims of a mere 55-60 is rather shocking, to-be-honest.
Besides, in that case - Speaking in terms of pilot resources across the PLAAF and PLANAF: All the remaining 200+ J-7s which are slated for retirement by the end of this year certainly didn't match with the expected rollout rate of new fighters from both CAC (J-20) and SAC (J-16) this year either...
Meanwhile, looking at LockMart with the annual production rate of the F-35 already passing 100 units for years now... man...
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Not going into whether any number is correct, annual procurement rate of 55-60 is actually huge. Especially for a 5th gen plane that's been delivered for only 8 years now.
That's ahead of f-22 and f-35.
Even said rate would suggest that by the end of 2023 total delivered numbers would be over 200 airframes.
Imagine if China is procuring 60 j20, 40 j16, 10 j15, 10h6 and several or more j10 per year. Those are serious numbers all together. Which seem to be set to grow further in future years.
That's ahead of f-22 and f-35.
Even said rate would suggest that by the end of 2023 total delivered numbers would be over 200 airframes.
Imagine if China is procuring 60 j20, 40 j16, 10 j15, 10h6 and several or more j10 per year. Those are serious numbers all together. Which seem to be set to grow further in future years.
was the earlier estimation for J-20 by the end of 2022 has already pass 200? based on CB0171? or something else, and that's like ealier than Zhuhai airshow?
None of us here in the thread expects the J20 yearly production number to surpass the combined F35 annual production number here in year 2023, likely also not in 2024 but harder to say afterwards.
Unless I counted something wrong, F-35 had 54 planes delivered to US DoD in 2018. That was its 8th year of serial standard airframe deliveries. If indeed 2023 will see 55-60 J20 delivered, then it would appear j20 is slightly ahead in country v country delivery curve.
Lockheed's production of F-35s is not for US exclusively but for a variety of international customers, and also with a vast international supply chain.
As for J-20 production rate, it is expected to grow either way including this year. There is some differing info as to whether the 100/yr rate previously stated is for actually delivered airframes by this year's end or whether it is that by the end of this year they will have the ability to build 100/yr afterwards, though I personally think it's the latter.
For sure, though the actual production rate of the F-35 (for all customers) is around ~150 aircraft per year I believe.
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