J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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Blitzo

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Responding to trolling with racism is not okay.

Both members Tygyg1111 and Chandragupt will go on a two week break.

Will the mods do anything about this or will they just let casual racism slide?

The moderators do not constantly watch every post in every thread 24/7, so it may sometimes take hours or days for intervention.

Have some realistic expectations.
 
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minime

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Now WS-15 is officially confirm for J-20 flight testing, any info out for what kind of engine WS-15 is?
1, more of F-119 small bypass ratio for high altitude high speed
2, or between F-119 and F-135 for a balance approach?
3, what kind of thrust WS-15 is aiming for and implication of performance impact on J-20?
 

minime

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One of the interesting considerations of the WS-15 isn't so much the kinematic improvement from the increased power but the increased power itself, meaning increased electrical power to run more capable and power-intensive electronics.
I thought super-cruise above 1.5M is more of a priority for J-20?
Any source to back your claim?
 

minime

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Source? What source do you need for the claim that more powerful engine -> more electrical power? The source is any high school physics textbook.
If I understand correctly, you claimed WS-15 increase power is for electrical power not for kinematic improvement.
To me it sounds like a priority choice not high school physics thus the source.
Anything will do, twitter or interview or publish paper, presentation
 

ZeEa5KPul

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If I understand correctly, you claimed WS-15 increase power is for electrical power not for kinematic improvement.
To me it sounds like a priority choice not high school physics thus the source.
You understood incorrectly. Let's parse the sentence together
One of the interesting considerations
This means that there are several interesting things for us to consider about the WS-15, what follows is one of them.
isn't so much the kinematic improvement from the increased power
While the kinematic improvement is an obvious and welcome benefit from the increased power of the engine relative to the WS-10C, this isn't what we will consider here.
meaning increased electrical power to run more capable and power-intensive electronics
The increased power is useful for many things, but here we emphasize that it is useful to run more capable electronics that require more electricity.

To give a broader context for my observation, Blitzo brought up that the WS-15 is more of a lux upgrade (my phrase) to the J-20 since the WS-10C is already quite powerful and while more agility and better supercruise is welcome, it's not as decisive in modern air combat as better electronics (better sensors, better datalinks, MUMT, "intelligentization", etc.) I wanted to bring up a counterpoint that a more powerful engine allows better electronics, so the WS-15 is useful even in that regard.
 

siegecrossbow

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If I understand correctly, you claimed WS-15 increase power is for electrical power not for kinematic improvement.
To me it sounds like a priority choice not high school physics thus the source.
Anything will do, twitter or interview or publish paper, presentation

I don't think that's the only benefit. The military thrust for a fourth generation engine is going to be a lot higher than that of a 3rd gen engine, even if there is a narrower gap between wet thrust.
 

sunnymaxi

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I don't think that's the only benefit. The military thrust for a fourth generation engine is going to be a lot higher than that of a 3rd gen engine, even if there is a narrower gap between wet thrust.
WS-15 is indeed a luxury engine but will be much better than WS-10C.

service life will be much longer , higher military thrust , better T/W ratio , supercruiser capability.

another important thing, WS-15 core can be use for further engines development. China spend a lot time and money on this machine. probably the most awaited engine in PRC aviation history.
 
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