J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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Deino

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by 2030, PLAAF will have minimum 900-1000 J-20s. if current rate of production continue.
A few thought to add..

1. Each J20A can possibly control 4 UAV’s configured for air superiority, that’s 5 aircraft. To have 1600 air superiority aircraft will only need 320 J20’s.

2. Let’s say the new J20 factories will also be capable of building air superiority UAV’s and is planned to build 6th Gen later. A reasonable strategy might be to ramp up J20 production now and for a few years to match F35 effective numbers, then transition most of that to UAV production. Which then becomes the base for the 6th Gen produced later.

3. China says they don’t want to dominate or project power, they want to ensure their sovereignty and protect their SLOC’s. If they actually need J20’s to dominate in the 2nd island chain then they can take off from short runways located in the 1st island chain, or use tanker support, or their accompanying UAV’s.

4. Unlike J16’s, there is nothing to stop China from selling a J-20E to another country, including ToT. So, there may be foreign factories building J-20s for SCO members.

I think by later this decade, China can have 600 J-20’s plus 2000 UAV’s of similar capability.


Well, 600-1000 J-20s and plus 2000 UCAVs! I think we should stick to the facts and eventually continue this at least now still very much speculative discussion about loyal wingman operations in a new thread?
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Well, 600-1000 J-20s and plus 2000 UCAVs! I think we should stick to the facts and eventually continue this at least now still very much speculative discussion about loyal wingman operations in a new thread?
Sure thing!

Or move the discussion to the UCAV thread?
 

TK3600

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When talking about number of J-20 needed and amount of force US can project, we need to talk about Japan. Yes Japan is inside missile strike range, but it is still a vast territory to saturate. In event Japan joins a war against China there will be ample space and logistic for US to committ a large airforce to operate. Against a huge swarm of 5th gen US aircraft plus whatever hundreds Japan has suddenly 1000 J-20 don't feel excessive in 2032.
 

Andy1974

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Well, 600-1000 J-20s and plus 2000 UCAVs! I think we should stick to the facts and eventually continue this at least now still very much speculative discussion about loyal wingman operations in a new thread?
I’m not sure. I think J20 plus UCAV’s will become the norm, and soon most J20 missions will include drones, meaning this is a fine place to discuss. perhaps we should shift our thinking to the J20 being a system by itself, not just a platform.
 

tphuang

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When talking about number of J-20 needed and amount of force US can project, we need to talk about Japan. Yes Japan is inside missile strike range, but it is still a vast territory to saturate. In event Japan joins a war against China there will be ample space and logistic for US to committ a large airforce to operate. Against a huge swarm of 5th gen US aircraft plus whatever hundreds Japan has suddenly 1000 J-20 don't feel excessive in 2032.
What you are talking about is not possible. 5th gen aircraft requires significant resources to sustain operation and things are simply not setup for that.

1000 j20s is not excessive, but Japan isn't the reason for china to get that many.
 

no_name

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China needs enough 5th gen to ensure destruction of currently deployed forces around her. New deployment attempts can be denied using AShBMs and hypersonic aircraft and weapon platforms, backed up by comprehensive surveillance and tracking network.
 

caohailiang

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What you are talking about is not possible. 5th gen aircraft requires significant resources to sustain operation and things are simply not setup for that.

1000 j20s is not excessive, but Japan isn't the reason for china to get that many.

This seems to be a topic being discussed back and forth forever on SDF, i.e. how west pacific basing is limiting USAF power projection.

As one of the many amateurs here, i wonder if someone could maybe share more insight on this. For example, in order to properly project power, what would the USAF infra/resource look like in west pacific? How far they are from that outlook? If US manage to get Philippine in line, what would be the impact to the balance of power and PLAAF's calculation?

Appreciate!
 

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