J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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tanino

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So as of 2018, WS-15 as a design has been modified I understand. It is interesting the comparison you make about 5Gen+ thrusters and beyond. Is this version Ws-15 upgrade) at the same level or higher than the F135-PW-100 Upgrade (+128/+191 kN) and the Russian Izd.30? Interesting platform of use.
 

OppositeDay

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So as of 2018, WS-15 as a design has been modified I understand. It is interesting the comparison you make about 5Gen+ thrusters and beyond. Is this version Ws-15 upgrade) at the same level or higher than the F135-PW-100 Upgrade (+128/+191 kN) and the Russian Izd.30? Interesting platform of use.

Not F135. Look at the size of the thing.
 

taxiya

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So as of 2018, WS-15 as a design has been modified I understand. It is interesting the comparison you make about 5Gen+ thrusters and beyond. Is this version Ws-15 upgrade) at the same level or higher than the F135-PW-100 Upgrade (+128/+191 kN) and the Russian Izd.30? Interesting platform of use.
F135 is F119 with a bigger fan for lower speed but longer range. It is a variant of F119 sacrificing high speed performance to improve lowe speed thrust and fuel efficiency. The proper comparison is F119.
 

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@Storm bombardier , that was a rather poor quality article and did not provide any new information that did not already exist, while also making spurious claims that were questionable.

This is not yet a formal warning, but in future please be more discriminating as to the quality of an article and the grandiosity of its claims.
 

stannislas

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F135 is F119 with a bigger fan for lower speed but longer range. It is a variant of F119 sacrificing high speed performance to improve lowe speed thrust and fuel efficiency. The proper comparison is F119.
F-119 in a lot of way is more like a turbojet than turbofan… the fuel consumption is not satisfied at all for j-20, especially j-20 is required for a much larger range

I therefore honestly think ws-15 will be more like a f-135 with bigger bypass ratio but not to that extreme though, still with sufficient supersonic performance yet increase bypass ratio as much as it can
 

sndef888

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F-119 in a lot of way is more like a turbojet than turbofan… the fuel consumption is not satisfied at all for j-20, especially j-20 is required for a much larger range

I therefore honestly think ws-15 will be more like a f-135 with bigger bypass ratio but not to that extreme though, still with sufficient supersonic performance yet increase bypass ratio as much as it can
Did u mean smaller bypass ratio? There is no way the WS-15 has a higher bypass ratio than F135
 
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