J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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Deino

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J-20A number '2021' - the first one fitted with the indigenous WS-10C "Taihang" - seen allegedly on 26. January 2019 and carrying two huge droptanks.

(Images via @谢婷的独家摄影师 from Weibo)


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maybe China should make some stealthy pods/missiles too, I can't imagine that the shaping would be too difficult to design.
If you refer to the drop tanks in Deino's last post, they are meant to be jettisoned before combats, like those of F-22:
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If you refer to the stealthy pod in his previous post (F/A-18E), it is only useful for a fighter without an internal weapon bay (like J-10).
No AA missiles adopt the stealthy design as their RCSs are already pretty small, and the gain will not be worth the sacrifice.
 
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SpicySichuan

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maybe China should make some stealthy pods/missiles too, I can't imagine that the shaping would be too difficult to design.
Stealthy pods would be necessary to carry more PL-10 short-range missiles for dogfights. Should a J-20 come into contact with an F-22 or F-35, the both sides would be unlikely to detect one another until they are within dogfighting ranges. BVRAAM radars would also have difficulties tracking stealth targets.
 

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lol I'm actually talking about something like the LRASM, doesn't seem too much of a revolution in manufacturing and I'm just tired of claims of 2 LRASM's sinking the LN and SD...
 

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J-20A number '2021' - the first one fitted with the indigenous WS-10C "Taihang" - seen allegedly on 26. January 2019 and carrying two huge droptanks.

(Images via @谢婷的独家摄影师 from Weibo)


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One of Boeing's (endless) criticisms of the F-35 is that stealth is only useful in the early stages of the war. Once you've obtained aerial supremacy you can dial back by hanging weapons and fuel tanks on the pylons. Perhaps Beijing shares a similar view? And given Beijing's deficiencies in tanking, big fuel tanks like these on the J-20 would be terrific for long-range ferry flights from, say, China's northwest down to Tibet, ie. in the event of an Indian contingency. They could also help the J-20 make it down to the new bases in the South China Sea.
 

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J-20A01 2016 has already gone through cold weather testing in 2017. Maybe this one should be called J-20A02.


Pardon ... now you again speak in mysteries!
J-20 '2016' is by all I know a regular AL-31FN-powered one ... why should it be called J-20A or even J-20A01?

Or was '2016' re-engined and got WS-10Cs too?

Otherwise I'm still confused with the A, B, C designation: IMO - at least in analogy to the Y-20 - I always thought, the demonstrators are J-20 only and the revised ones were J-20A, as such the serial ones too. Henri K. once criticised me since all J-20s so far delivered are J-20s and only those with the WS-10C are called J-20A.

Could you please clarify a bit?
 

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The designations are indeed interesting. J-20 (without suffix) seems to be limited to the demonstrators (200X) and J-20A starts from 2011. I would love to see any evidence of the claim that only those with the WS-10C are called J-20A.


Thanks ... but if the AL-31-powered ones from '2011' on are called J-20A, wouldn't it be logical to call those using the WS-10 J-20B? ... but since the WS-10 powered J-10C are also J-10C it seems to be different to those good old days where each minor change resulted in a new designation.
 
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