J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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siegecrossbow

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Yup he seem to have good track record. He predicted WS10C on both J10 and J20. Both of them come to be true. Now he come up with this news. So let the time show if he is right

His claim about two WVR missiles per side bay has not been proven thus far… However, I think that he is right with the latest cartoon since many people from Chengdu has seen it as well. Eyewitnesses claim that the sound is louder/different from that of AL-31 or WS-10. Is it proof of WS-15 or is it the result of different engines installed on the same plane or even psychological reasons? Only time will tell.
 

Xizor

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I'd like some clarification-

Prior to this, there were mentions of WS-15 being tested. Was it tested aboard a J-20 or a Chinese flanker?

Is this the first instance of a news about WS-15 testing out aboard a J-20?
 

james smith esq

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His claim about two WVR missiles per side bay has not been proven thus far… However, I think that he is right with the latest cartoon since many people from Chengdu has seen it as well. Eyewitnesses claim that the sound is louder/different from that of AL-31 or WS-10. Is it proof of WS-15 or is it the result of different engines installed on the same plane or even psychological reasons? Only time will tell.
The first time I heard an F-22, I couldn’t believe how much louder its engines were than F-18 and F-15 engines. In fact, the only reason I deduced that the aircraft was an F-22 was because I’d never heard a fighter jet so loud before. If there were an advanced method for using acoustic detection for aircraft, the F-22 would be considered anti-stealth.
 

crash8pilot

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The first time I heard an F-22 engine, I couldn’t believe how much louder it was than F-18 and F-15 engines. If there were an advanced method for using acoustic detection for aircraft, the F-22 would be considered anti-stealth.
All about that thrust-to-weight... more thrust = more boom ;)
 

sequ

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The cartoon guy is about the closest we can get to any definitive proof of any progress in the J-20's development. You may find this unbelievable or even ridiculous, but that's how it is with speculating about Chinese military projects-- rumors from bloggers with consistent credibility always precede the official announcement by anything from a few months to a couple of years, or simply forever, as the case may be. Just live with it.
I'm quite surprised by this. With today's mass communication and a lot of military enthusiasts with knowledge of the English and Chinese language, there should be a healthy stream of pics coming out of China circumventing the GCFW.

The Chinese members of this site and other sites should put in more effort to build up friendships with these photographers without risking themselves and others. Once in a while some pics being 'smuggled' across the border with Hong Kong is not that difficult to do right?

Put in more effort please!:p
 

henrylowe

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His claim about two WVR missiles per side bay has not been proven thus far… However, I think that he is right with the latest cartoon since many people from Chengdu has seen it as well. Eyewitnesses claim that the sound is louder/different from that of AL-31 or WS-10. Is it proof of WS-15 or is it the result of different engines installed on the same plane or even psychological reasons? Only time will tell.
That's true, but there's no way for it to be "proven". Official silence is generally expected with the J-20. In fact, there are many more such "rumors" that are yet to be substantiated but are generally taken to be accurate.
 

Blitzo

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Disappointing, the WS-15 was apparently being trialed on the J-20 two years back after the new nozzle had been tested on the J-10B platform. If it takes this long to get to a first flight of the WS-15 engine / nozzle, it suggests a great lateness in development processes.

I think you've crossed your wires.

Back in 2018 when there were rumours of a J-20 testing a "new engine" -- that was in reference to a J-20 testing a TVC WS-10 variant similar to the J-10B prototype that had been testing the TVC WS-10.
No one believes that J-20 at that time had already been testing WS-15.
 

Xizor

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I think you've crossed your wires.

Back in 2018 when there were rumours of a J-20 testing a "new engine" -- that was in reference to a J-20 testing a TVC WS-10 variant similar to the J-10B prototype that had been testing the TVC WS-10.
No one believes that J-20 at that time had already been testing WS-15.
But before that, weren't there news about WS-15 tested aboard a flanker? Or was that unsubstantiated rumors?
 

Hendrik_2000

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I'd like some clarification-

Prior to this, there were mentions of WS-15 being tested. Was it tested aboard a J-20 or a Chinese flanker?

Is this the first instance of a news about WS-15 testing out aboard a J-20?
Well now a days you don't need to actually fitted on the plane and fly it to test engine for prototype. Isn't there a news that say China built and environmental facility where they can simulate, Elevation, atmosphere condition like rain, wind etc. I guess they probably test the prototype there. And of course the final test has to be on the actual plane, it is intended to use
 
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