J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

Bltizo said:

I'd fairly confident say no at this stage.

Simply because Cangzhou and Dingxin definitely do not have 20 J-20s each and Anshan won't have received its full complement either.

But I wouldn't be surprised if there was some 60+ aircraft in service.

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This 622xx serial IMO is important because it just demonstrates how variable things can be -- prior to it, the last highest serial from 9th brigade was an image 3-4 days ago of a J-20 with a semi obscured tail number of likely 62100 -- aka the 10th J-20 from the unit.
622xx would indicate at least the 20th J-20 from the same unit, meaning in less than a week the likely estimate for the number of J-20s at 9th brigade has at least doubled.

Which is indicative of why I don't trust "confirmed serial numbers" as an accurate reflection of "true aircraft in service" as far as I can throw any of the aircraft in question





On what basis do you think that?
Is it what you hope, or what you have estimated?

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11226p said:

Significant development for serial number accountants. J-20 with 622XX, via

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. This is significant in that it isn't the rumored 61X2X at Anshan nor attributed to another known unit.

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Also its a beautiful image but that is standard for the J-20.

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Philister said:

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well,I don’t know if it’s real

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Inst said:

If we can get confirmation as to whether this is the WS-15, there is a strong chance the engine could be ready to equip all J-20s within 2-3 years. AFAIK that was the discussion of the PLAAF engine certification program.

However, as I've previously stated, the J-20 would need inlet modifications to support the WS-15, given that inlet flow requirements between the WS-10 / AL-31 and WS-15 likely differ. We may end up seeing inlets more similar to the original J-20 prototype inlets due to the flow requirements.

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TBH, the most obvious sign that we're dealing with WS-15 would be a change in the DSI. A smaller DSI bump would imply that the WS-15 has been installed due to the greater airflow requirements of the WS-15.

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Bltizo said:

It does look like 622XY

But if the X is zero -- i.e.: 6220Y -- then that would correspond with 9th brigade (62x0x).

Assuming this is from 9th brigade, well it would as good as confirm that 9th brigade has at least 20 J-20s...

Alternatively (and somewhat less likely imo), is that this is not 9th brigade but some other brigade -- however the placement of the third digit in 622XY, means whichever unit it is from, it has at least 20 aircraft.


Now, I think it's unlikely that there's just a new unit randomly popped up with an additional 20 J-20s.
But the idea that 9th brigade has at least 20 J-20s to me sounds very reasonable indeed.

@Deino

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stannislas said:

well, J-20 inlet has been modified to accomidate WS-10, so yeah, should be faily familier process for CAS

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siegecrossbow said:

Engine nozzles are tactically obscured…

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Volpler11 said:

Weird Huitong still havent added a photo of 78233 to their gallery. Here is another screen shot.

Edit:video is showing 78233 exercise with 78231.

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