J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

[Atomicfrog]

That's just called eyeballing the aerodynamics, which we can't do without reliably knowing the thrust rating or the aircraft's weight.

We have had rumours of course of those figures, but nothing I consider to be sufficiently concrete that would make me confident enough to argue to a neutral audience that "J-20 can supercruise with WS-10Cs".


The preceding discussion therefore was specifically about the veracity of the rumours we've had for those numbers in the past.

Both aerodynamics and dry trust have a lot to do with super cruising. We could take aircraft with horrible trust to weight ratio for example like the Concorde or F-106 that were supercruising. We don't know for sure for J-20 but it's quite possible that it's able to achieve it if his aerodynamics are not to draggy.

 

[by78]

Another beautiful image from Zhuhai.

 

[Deino]

Hey, if I‘m not mistaken, then these are the first clear public images showing a J-20 assigned to the 4th Air Brigade at Foshan … and also still an old (must be very old already) Su-27UBK (see Flanker-thread).

(Images via @齐天的孙猴子 from Weibo). @huitong

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A third one found! @huitong ... finally a J-20 from the 4th AB for your list!

 

[talonn]

Hi shi fus, saw someone posted this on reddit. Do we know of if this is legit? It's about the encounter between J-20s and F-35s few years back

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[totenchan]

Hi shi fus, saw someone posted this on reddit. Do we know of if this is legit? It's about the encounter between J-20s and F-35s few years back

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Incredibly old image, and has been debunked for just as long.

 

[Untoldpain]

This is ancient, and complete garbage.

 

[talonn]

Thanks guys. Since I am late to this, is it safe to assume that the report is fake?

 

[Alfa_Particle]

Hi shi fus, saw someone posted this on reddit. Do we know of if this is legit? It's about the encounter between J-20s and F-35s few years back

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Oh my this thing. Reading that Reddit hellhole of a comment section gave me an aneurysm.

The original 'document' was about J-16s and F-35s, but some a-hole censored it and paraded it around as evidence against the J-20. I think he's either that 艾布拉姆斯 dude on Twitter or some other obscure runt.

Thanks guys. Since I am late to this, is it safe to assume that the report is fake?

The credibility of the original document is quite dubious. Typos, unconventional/awkward wording etc.

 

[valysre]

The entire r/lazerpig is a mess. There's a post that

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on the Chinese MIC because of the stupid Jade White Emperor mockup, and because China exporting weapons at a low cost must mean they don't work.
I would take anything associated with lazerpig with a large mound of salt. Enough to cure the pig to ham.

 

[Alfa_Particle]

The entire r/lazerpig is a mess. There's a post that

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on the Chinese MIC because of the stupid Jade White Emperor mockup, and because China exporting weapons at a low cost must mean they don't work.
I would take anything associated with lazerpig with a large mound of salt. Enough to cure the pig to ham.

Oh I dealt with him and his minions briefly on Twitter. My God they sure are... something.