J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII
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Right, then until such a "smart gun" with "smart ammo" is developed for fighter aircraft and demonstrated to be viable (either in China or across the world), you accept it cannot contribute to offensive purposes and you accept that it is at best a last ditch self defense weapon.
Isn't a gun pod always an option if necessary for any aircraft lacking one (ignoring any obvious downsides to using one)? Not sure how many rounds they'd generally be able to hold though.
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Imagine the scenario: Two J-20’s are on patrol in the West Pacific, when in front of them they see 144 Tomahawks being launched from a submarine!
If they have guns they can use them to shoot down all missiles, in fact in this specific situation it might be best to use guns FIRST!
Or simply, if the enemy knows the J-20 can only shoot down 8 missiles/drones/whatever, he will send more than 8. So in any situation I can think of it’s better to have a gun, and be able to use it offensively to deal with large numbers of targets.
No, because what is to stop it being used offensively even with dumb rounds, they still work.
Imagine the scenario: Two J-20’s are on patrol in the West Pacific, when in front of them they see 144 Tomahawks being launched from a submarine!
If they have guns they can use them to shoot down all missiles, in fact in this specific situation it might be best to use guns FIRST!
Or simply, if the enemy knows the J-20 can only shoot down 8 missiles/drones/whatever, he will send more than 8. So in any situation I can think of it’s better to have a gun, and be able to use it offensively to deal with large numbers of targets.
Would be nonsense on a stealth aircraft, would degrade one of his main aspect.
Can we bury that gun discussion until they install a gun ?
In such a scenario, the two J-20s would relay the datalinked information to friendly assets that are more appropriately equipped to deal with such a raid, rather than exposing themselves in their primary air to air mission by making themselves easy targets trying to shoot down Tomahawks with their guns, because the primary mission of J-20s are high end air superiority rather than chasing down cruise missiles.
The primary role of J-20 simply is not to compromise itself by trying to shoot down typical cruise missiles with guns (or as you previously suggested, low end drones).
There are far superior, more effective and better platforms to deal with cruise missiles or low end drones than J-20s with guns.
Wasting effort on a retard. Give up. He's going straight on ignore list for suggesting J-20s should be chasing down drones with a gun. It's like using your sports car to race cyclists on a bike trail. Wrong tool for the job.
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You guys do realize that ammo is expended within a matter of seconds, right?
Fun fact, F-35A's GAU-22 depletes its 180 round reserve in 3.27 sec.
Exactly. Which is why any gun on a modern fighter is best seen as a last ditch self defense weapon, and the same applies for J-20.