J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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Hyperwarp

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Pmichael said:
This is quite the statement. Although the Rolls Royce engine for the F-35 was the better one.

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I don't know about the F136 being better than the F135, but don't forget the F136 is a GE-RR joint project with 60% of share going to GE. Full Engine tests are at GE.

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Even ignoring that the Eurojet EJ200 is running circles around the F100 technolgy and performance wise.
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The F100 have been in-service since the mid-1970's and the F110 since mid-1980's. EJ-200 1st flew in 1991 and entered service later (2003?). The F-22 & F119 reached IoC in 2005.

EJ-200, M88 are very advanced and the EJ-200 could be improved to 120 kN in the future if they choose to but when it comes very high-thrust turbofans going well over 100 kN the US has been the king followed by Russia.

China only recently (with great difficulty) joined the club with the WS-10 with reheat thrust ranging from 118 kN to 137 kN.
 
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ougoah

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Pointless debate on who's got what. Let's just say there are a small handful of countries capable of this feat, China recently joining this club. WS15 is still a while away. WS10x will have to do for now. Not a bad setup but less than ideal.
 
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Hyperwarp said:
The F100 have been in-service since the mid-1970's and the F110 since mid-1980's. EJ-200 1st flew in 1991 and entered service later (2003?). The F-22 & F119 reached IoC in 2005.

EJ-200, M88 are very advanced and the EJ-200 could be improved to 120 kN in the future if they choose to but when it comes very high-thrust turbofans going well over 100 kN the US has been the king followed by Russia.

China only recently (with great difficulty) joined the club with the WS-10 with reheat thrust ranging from 118 kN to 137 kN.
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This is only a matter of need. Europe doesn't operate large birds like the F-15 or F-14. Technologywise the EJ2000 is a hightech fighter engine which China doesn't have an
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I know this is the sinodefenceforum so there is a natural desire for people to frame China highly but China is still behind several western countries in important key technolgies.
 
plawolf

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siegecrossbow said:
Apparently it has to do with PLAAF fighting terrorists who inexplicably got hold of advanced fighter jets like Mirage 2000 and F-16. Parts of the movie are filmed in Kazakhstan.
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Is it so inexplicable when ISIS had Abraham tanks and other heavy arms during its peak and there is compelling evidence certain Gulf states, stuffed to the gills with advanced western arms, were the ideological and maybe even practical creators and sponsor of it?

One or even a series of coups later and you could quite feasibly have a re-branded ISIS with top of the line western fighter jets in its arsenal.
 
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plawolf said:
Is it so inexplicable when ISIS had Abraham tanks and other heavy arms during its peak and there is compelling evidence certain Gulf states, stuffed to the gills with advanced western arms, were the ideological and maybe even practical creators and sponsor of it?

One or even a series of coups later and you could quite feasibly have a re-branded ISIS with top of the line western fighter jets in its arsenal.
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It's probably harder to train pilots than it is to train tank operators.
 
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